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[Jonas]

Okay this maybe the dumbest question to ask but there I asked it. I used search and didn't find anything. So does anyone know is it both or what. Ether way I want to play but just wanted to know exactly what has been said. If some one has a link to send it to me. Oh and if it is PVE or just PVP will that be the deal breaker for you ?

[Motionless]

PVP is the name of the game, son. There's no PVE to be found.

[Listless Nomad]

Did you search for the "new players start here please" thread pinned at the top here or the FAQ at the top of every page?

[JadeTimberwolf]

While I do believe that the plan is a PvP game it would be nice to see some PvE elements included, namely in the case that you have multiple lances striking a planet but there are not enough PC lances to accurately define a planets defense force include some NPC lances so that can be shown, or when the clans start showing (Jade Falcon next march if they completely follow canon) having the first wave or two of clans be NPCs.

[Jonas]

I didn't see it spelled out, but after checking and rereading I see that the answers was there all along so thanks look forward to playing.

[Tearalum]

I'd like some tanks and infantry squadrons to squash. Please.

[Eximar]

Just say no to PvE.

[Kiyoshi Amaya]

As far as I'm aware, it'll only be pvp on release. Hopefully, they will introduce some pve at some point, as a lot of people might get bored of pvp only. Variety is the spice of life, as they say.

[Rejarial Galatan]

Eximar, on 20 April 2012 - 02:21 PM, said:

Just say no to PvE.

UH NO. I say YES PvE. Why? Simple. I have had some seriously EFFED up experiences in PvP. My very first comes to mind on WoW. I was like 2 weeks into the game and accidently turned my flag on. Some level 60 <yes, I started PRE Burning Crusades> Horde players saw me and killed me on a PvE server simply because I was red to them. I say making a game PURE PvP is evil and wrong. A game MUST have some PvE in it imho. IF you want to ONLY PvP thats your bag, not mine. Its why I dont play BF3 24/7/365. PvP is fun, but, can be soooooooo abused by ppl who spawn camp or corpse camp or who just stand there and refuse to be of any use to the team and so forth. Besides, the game HAS PvE built in. Want proof? Use the terrain to block line of sight. In a way PvE XD yes, loose example. Also, we will see the clans invade us, and at first, they WILL be NPC unless PGI makes it so we can start as clans, which means PvE in its TRUE form.

Shrekken, on 20 April 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

As far as I'm aware, it'll only be pvp on release. Hopefully, they will introduce some pve at some point, as a lot of people might get bored of pvp only. Variety is the spice of life, as they say.

dude, your chair... I BOW to your level of geekdom!

[Motionless]

Rejarial Galatan, on 20 April 2012 - 06:42 PM, said:

UH NO. I say YES PvE. Why? Simple. I have had some seriously EFFED up experiences in PvP. My very first comes to mind on WoW. I was like 2 weeks into the game and accidently turned my flag on. Some level 60 <yes, I started PRE Burning Crusades> Horde players saw me and killed me on a PvE server simply because I was red to them. I say making a game PURE PvP is evil and wrong. A game MUST have some PvE in it imho. IF you want to ONLY PvP thats your bag, not mine. Its why I dont play BF3 24/7/365. PvP is fun, but, can be soooooooo abused by ppl who spawn camp or corpse camp or who just stand there and refuse to be of any use to the team and so forth. Besides, the game HAS PvE built in. Want proof? Use the terrain to block line of sight. In a way PvE XD yes, loose example. Also, we will see the clans invade us, and at first, they WILL be NPC unless PGI makes it so we can start as clans, which means PvE in its TRUE form.


dude, your chair... I BOW to your level of geekdom!

Like counter-strike, right? That needs some PvE, you should talk to valve about the new Counter-Strike Global Offensive and explain that to them.

Also yeah, when you turn on pvp that means "pvp me" on a pve server. But I'm pretty sure in MWO you're not going to run around doing little quests to kill 10 wolves that the mean clanners can gank you while you're doing.

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Besides, the game HAS PvE built in. Want proof? Use the terrain to block line of sight. In a way PvE XD yes, loose example.

Loose example? More like BAD example. That's like saying that pillar humping in WoW's arena is PvE. I can't even believe you would suggest that is pve.

Have you even played previous Mechwarrior games? It's not like we're all going to be sitting around in Ironforge in our mechs when the clans invade. The 'PvE' in mechwarrior has been single player campaigns, which there is none for MWO.

[Rejarial Galatan]

Love the sarcasm Motionless. I say this again: I was 2 EFFING weeks into the game, was still learning how the game worked, and got killed for ignorance. Now, as to killing 10 wolves? Why on terra would I kill my OWN clan? Unless Im in a trial of position or something, then well, ya.

[Rejarial Galatan]

Motionless, on 20 April 2012 - 06:54 PM, said:

Loose example? More like BAD example. That's like saying that pillar humping in WoW's arena is PvE. I can't even believe you would suggest that is pve.

Have you even played previous Mechwarrior games? It's not like we're all going to be sitting around in Ironforge in our mechs when the clans invade. The 'PvE' in mechwarrior has been single player campaigns, which there is none for MWO.

Dude, you are either trying to troll me or are missing a huge part of what I was trying to effing say. For civility, I shall wager on the latter. If you want to "Ridgeline" yourself, have at it. But, I sure as hel* am planning on using as much cover as I can to conceal myself for as long as possible until the moment comes for me to step out from behind my cover and level my ERPPCS and Heavy Gauss Rifles on your mech and tear your cockpit off your shoulders. And for the RECORD my history in MW/BT is this: Mechwarrior 2, Mechwarrior 2 Ghost Bears Legacy, MechWarrior 2 Mercenaries, MechWarrior 3, Mechwarrior 3 Mercenaries, Mechwarrior 4 Vengeance, Mechwarrior 4 Mercenaries, Battle Tech TCG/CCG. I am by no means new to this franchise. and when I DID MP in MW4M I used cover as much as I could. On WoW in PvP I used cover and sent my demon out to hunt you down, distract you and then go nuclear on you with my ex gf pumping tons of heals into me as you died by my hellfire. I used to Play Americas Army Operations and when I did that games SF quals, I learned alot about the bonus to using concealment. Hell ask any sniper IRL about using cover to get the job done.

[Fetladral]

if it's going to be pvp only be prepared for people who are bad (no matter what they do some will always be bad) to scream in the middle of the match HACKER. you think to yourself "no i don't hack im good you just suck".

I saw it all the time in combat arms (and i have had 2 accounts now that got shut down because of people calling me a hacker. not my fault that i'm decent and they suck. my KDR was only a .8 when these people who are calling each others hackers have like a .15 KDR.)

In all the previous mechwarrior games that I have played even in single player I used cover if I could especially when there were multiple enemies. Somehow I feel like motionless is going to die. alot. and possibly fast.

Edited by Fetladral, 20 April 2012 - 07:09 PM.

[Motionless]

Rejarial Galatan, on 20 April 2012 - 06:59 PM, said:

Love the sarcasm Motionless. I say this again: I was 2 EFFING weeks into the game, was still learning how the game worked, and got killed for ignorance. Now, as to killing 10 wolves? Why on terra would I kill my OWN clan? Unless Im in a trial of position or something, then well, ya.

Yeah, and do you know what your penalty for death was? A run back to your body and res! Oh no! How terrible -- truly a fate worse than death.

The fact is that you're mad over people engaging IN THE GAME. It's like crying when someone takes out a piece of yours in chess!

And if you are suppose to be from Clan Wolf, may I suggest not setting your Allegiance icon to Kurita.

Rejarial Galatan, on 20 April 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:

Dude, you are either trying to troll me or are missing a huge part of what I was trying to effing say. For civility, I shall wager on the latter. If you want to "Ridgeline" yourself, have at it. But, I sure as hel* am planning on using as much cover as I can to conceal myself for as long as possible until the moment comes for me to step out from behind my cover and level my ERPPCS and Heavy Gauss Rifles on your mech and tear your cockpit off your shoulders. And for the RECORD my history in MW/BT is this: Mechwarrior 2, Mechwarrior 2 Ghost Bears Legacy, MechWarrior 2 Mercenaries, MechWarrior 3, Mechwarrior 3 Mercenaries, Mechwarrior 4 Vengeance, Mechwarrior 4 Mercenaries, Battle Tech TCG/CCG. I am by no means new to this franchise. and when I DID MP in MW4M I used cover as much as I could. On WoW in PvP I used cover and sent my demon out to hunt you down, distract you and then go nuclear on you with my ex gf pumping tons of heals into me as you died by my hellfire. I used to Play Americas Army Operations and when I did that games SF quals, I learned alot about the bonus to using concealment. Hell ask any sniper IRL about using cover to get the job done.

Okay, so can you understand how using cover against other players isn't pve? Standing behind a hill so someone can't shoot you until you close distance is not 'pve.'

Edited by Motionless, 20 April 2012 - 07:09 PM.

[TheVengeant]

I am an infrequent visitor here due to being busy during the day with work, and at night with my family, but I am a lifelong fan of Battletech (since the age of 12! So that's 25 years and counting...) and am interested in checking in once in a while to see what's going on.

My assumption all along has been that PvE would exist in this game, so I was surprised by this question and decided to give it a click to see what was said within. I've now read the FAQ; multiplayer only. That is a huge disappointment for me. I am a veteran of playing games online and playing against people on the Internet (as opposed to just my friends) really sucks.

If it's PvP only, I'm out.

[Motionless]

Jaren Ward, on 20 April 2012 - 07:10 PM, said:

My assumption all along has been that PvE would exist in this game, so I was surprised by this question and decided to give it a click to see what was said within. I've now read the FAQ; multiplayer only. That is a huge disappointment for me. I am a veteran of playing games online and playing against people on the Internet (as opposed to just my friends) really sucks.

If it's PvP only, I'm out.

Happy trails, mechwarrior.

[Tazbayle]

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I have had some seriously EFFED up experiences in PvP. My very first comes to mind on WoW. I was like 2 weeks into the game and accidently turned my flag on. Some level 60 <yes, I started PRE Burning Crusades> Horde players saw me and killed me on a PvE server simply because I was red to them. I say making a game PURE PvP is evil and wrong.

I'm sorry you were ganked by the horde, I too played in Vanilla WoW. But as the term was used in the old Star Wars Galaxies MMO, "Red is dead" you were fair game. This is a game of war and thus all about teamwork and taking out the other forces. PvE is limited, NPC's have a set movement and abilities that can be patterned. It would be far more of a challenge to not only out skill the opponet, but to also out think him/her as well. As that person plays his/her play style changes with experence as yours would, making every encounter vastly different as time passes.
Wouldn't you prefer to be challenged which will improve you as a player, or just coast through learning little about your true abilities.

Taz

[Paul Inouye]

I think the OP got his answer. For those of you who do not realize he did... MechWarrior Online is a tactical sim that is focused on multiplayer PvP.

Any single player content is a stretch goal well beyond launch.