15 replies to this topic

[Captain Mediocre]

I just lost to a stationary stalker and my ER-PPC where passing right through him. My AC 5's where barely registering hits. My dragon builds when from deadly to dead weight since the last patch.

[SixstringSamurai]

Confirmed this is so. My buddy TK'd me by shooting through a Catapult that was between us killing it and me with 2 PPCs.

Edited by SixStringSamurai, 12 March 2013 - 08:33 AM.

[Pando]

Had similar events happening to me this morning. 290-340m had all 5 ppc shots pass through center mass of a stationary dragon and not register any hits.

Similar events when I fired on other battlemechs.

[SixstringSamurai]

Ballistic weapons are impacting behind targets again as well as though the rounds are passing through the target.

Also, in testing grounds at least, LRMs fired at exactly 180m will disappear inside the target for 0 damage.

Edited by SixStringSamurai, 12 March 2013 - 08:42 AM.

[MasterGoa]

This explains what happened to me at lunch.

4 ER PPC shot at the head of an Atlas, facing me perfectly, did nothing...

[Captain Mediocre]

Glad to hear I’m not alone. I’m going to stop playing for a bit until this issue is resolved as I cannot find an effective build on any of my mechs.
DEVS pleased look into this.

[Phaesphoros]

Keep in mind Host State Rewind currently does not affect PPCs, so you have to lead your target still - IIRC there's no accurate description what's the current implementation, but I guess your own movement and ping also plays a role in leading your target.

[Captain Mediocre]

Phaesphoros, on 13 March 2013 - 10:15 AM, said:

Keep in mind Host State Rewind currently does not affect PPCs, so you have to lead your target still - IIRC there's no accurate description what's the current implementation, but I guess your own movement and ping also plays a role in leading your target.

I know that I did not have these problems until the latest patch. Standing still, circling or running strait on I see my PPC hit dead center and keep going. Before the patch my AC-2 2xER-PPC build was deadly since the patch my stats have been tanking. Leading the target is not the issue.

[aniviron]

I run a 3xPPC 8Q a lot, feels like PPC hits have been really off since the 5th. Registry has always been a little iffy, but it was pretty good until that patch.; I'm routinely watching my shots go right through stationary targets now, and sometimes missing but getting hit indicators anyway.

On a related but not-identical note, PPCs are still affected by the issue where shots appear to have suffered severe convergence issues and cross paths 100m from you, but the actual shot still hits where your point of aim is. I'm assuming that this is related to the thread's topic, given that there seems to be a large disconnect between where the PPC fires and where the graphic is drawn to indicate the firing path.

[John MatriX82]

Yep several weapons often don't even register damage. Happens mostly with PPCs (both er and not) and SRMs as well.

[Jelan]

I've been experiencing similar issues with ERPPC's

[Haruspice]

John MatriX82, on 14 March 2013 - 04:52 AM, said:

Yep several weapons often don't even register damage. Happens mostly with PPCs (both er and not) and SRMs as well.

Yep , it's really obvious when people use jump jets.

[TheJs]

Yes I probably experienced this as well. When it happened I did not have noticably high ping or lag spikes. Ping was around 140-200. Even more convincing was the scenario of the event.

I was shooting at a stationery Cataphract in my 2ERPPC equipped C1-Cat across the southern bridge in River City. I stood still too and chain fired at least 15 shots at him,possibly more. I could see the ppc hit animation, but I could not see his damage readout(perhaps out of radar range?). When walked out, his CT was only yellow armor, and both legs yellow armor although I did not aim at those parts. I have no video to proof is since I did not realise it was happening until the mech came out barely scratched.

It is probable that I was just out of the ERPPC max range, but I have yet to test the distance between the bridge.

[SixstringSamurai]

We did an 8 man with a group on coms last night and their cicada with 2 PPCs hit my CPLT-A1 center torso and damaged my mech both front and back at the same time with the rounds impacting the ground behind me. So something weird is definitely going on.

[Lord Perversor]

TheJs, on 16 March 2013 - 03:36 AM, said:

Yes I probably experienced this as well. When it happened I did not have noticably high ping or lag spikes. Ping was around 140-200. Even more convincing was the scenario of the event. I was shooting at a stationery Cataphract in my 2ERPPC equipped C1-Cat across the southern bridge in River City. I stood still too and chain fired at least 15 shots at him,possibly more. I could see the ppc hit animation, but I could not see his damage readout(perhaps out of radar range?). When walked out, his CT was only yellow armor, and both legs yellow armor although I did not aim at those parts. I have no video to proof is since I did not realise it was happening until the mech came out barely scratched. It is probable that I was just out of the ERPPC max range, but I have yet to test the distance between the bridge.

with BAP and extended range module you can lock enemies at 1200 meters, distance on river city it's around 1200-1400 from one capping point to another so we can estimate you was shooting the guy at those 1200meter with a 860 range weapon (1600 top range) so expect around 5 dmg points per impact as a guess on the enemy.

Yet i also found lately some odd things with impacts since last week.
i was able to land a 4x ppc shoot at 300m on a spider leg, and the ****** just didn't even lose the armor (and if i recall it's something in the thirties but NOT over 40 armor points)

also yesterday i managed to get 4x Ac-20 hits plus 2x med pulse lasers constant spam on a raven and only hit his side torsos and never went under yellow dmg after armor gone??? i swear a 2x well placed AC 20 hits send any light mech section into the bright red zone.

[Genewen]

Since the last patch, I got hit multiple times by PPCs without them causing damage. It had nothing to do with the distance, since for example yesterday, I got hit by a PPC carrying Stalker 380m away. Not a single point of damage.