11 replies to this topic

[Asmosis]

I'm just curious, assuming you have (or have had) the same chassis and gained the various exp bonuses if they benefit trial mechs. Or are trial mechs *slightly* different versions like founder mechs and treated as a different chassis?

[Kaijin]

Excellent question! I didn't know the answer, so I tested it with the trial Catapult C1. I am a Master of all Cats, and nope - no skill bonuses on the trials.

Edited by Kaijin, 09 November 2012 - 03:25 AM.

[Galaxy Drifter]

No. You train pilot efficiencies for a specific variant of an owned mech. They are not general and must be researched for each mech.

[Greers]

Kaijin, on 09 November 2012 - 03:25 AM, said:

Excellent question! I didn't know the answer, so I tested it with the trial Catapult C1. I am a Master of all Cats, and nope - no skill bonuses on the trials.

You are not a Master of all Cats, but a Master of the Cat A1,K2,C1 and C4. Therefore driving a "Trial Cat C4" you gain no bonus cause "Trial" is an own Variant...

[Asmosis]

thought i'd ask since trial mechs dont have a trial tag like how founders have the [F] tag on them. Thanks for clearing it up

Edited by Asmosis, 09 November 2012 - 05:36 AM.

[Kaijin]

Greers, on 09 November 2012 - 04:42 AM, said:

You are not a Master of all Cats, but a Master of the Cat A1,K2,C1 and C4. Therefore driving a "Trial Cat C4" you gain no bonus cause "Trial" is an own Variant...

I'm a Master of all Cats that can be mastered within the present system. Incidentally, the trial Cat at present is a C1, not a C4. Also, I do think I mentioned testing it and discovering that indeed, the skills do not apply to trial mechs.

[Joseph Mallan]

Elddar, on 09 November 2012 - 04:38 AM, said:

No. You train pilot efficiencies for a specific variant of an owned mech. They are not general and must be researched for each mech.

But the point is kinda valid. If I Master the Atlas-D and jump in a trial Atlas-D I should get my perks that I earned for that model.

[Khobai]

I dont think you should. You shouldnt get rewarded for playing a trial mech if you own the real thing. Trial mechs are for people who dont own the mech and want to try it out. They arnt for people who do own the mech and want to abuse Trial mechs.

[Joseph Mallan]

Ah but what if i need to grind cash cause I'm out of money. I mastered the Atlas-D If I buy an Atlas-D I get my perks right? so then I should get them on any Atlas-D after all I am a Master Atlas-D pilot.

[Galaxy Drifter]

Joseph Mallan, on 09 November 2012 - 07:14 AM, said:

But the point is kinda valid. If I Master the Atlas-D and jump in a trial Atlas-D I should get my perks that I earned for that model.

That would be true if the Pilot tree research actually represented pilot skills, but it does not.

All the items you research there are hardware modifications to your mech, and cannot apply to the trial mechs.

[Adrienne Vorton]

Elddar, on 09 November 2012 - 04:38 AM, said:

No. You train pilot efficiencies for a specific variant of an owned mech. They are not general and must be researched for each mech.

not entirely true... if i master my c1 (or what ever) and sell it, it will still be mastered when i buy it back someday...

the trial C1 on the other hand is a TRIALmech, and thus stands outside of the XP system...simple as that

just a sidenote: if they really split the trialmechs to a seperate que, wouldn´t it be unfair if you jump in there with a mastered mech?^^

trial is trial, own is own... working as intended^^

Edited by Adrienne Vorton, 10 November 2012 - 02:26 AM.

[Galaxy Drifter]

Adrienne Vorton, on 10 November 2012 - 02:21 AM, said:

not entirely true... if i master my c1 (or what ever) and sell it, it will still be mastered when i buy it back someday...

the trial C1 on the other hand is a TRIALmech, and thus stands outside of the XP system...simple as that

just a sidenote: if they really split the trialmechs to a seperate que, wouldn´t it be unfair if you jump in there with a mastered mech?^^

trial is trial, own is own... working as intended^^

Well, I said you learn it for a specific variant, not the actual mech.

If you read my post above you, it makes more sense to think of it as learning mech modifications skills. After all, no amount of training or experience piloting the mech is going to allow you to twist the torso more than it was designed, or make it run faster than the stock engine will permit.

So, if you learned how to make custom mods to a C1, and then sell it, when you get a new C1 you still know how to apply the mods.

When you borrow a trial mech, you are not allowed to customize or modify it in any way.

At least that is how it all makes sense to me.