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[Lefty Lucy]

When I drop with my team, and you are eager and capable of following our orders, thank you.

When you do just as much damage, and get just as many kills as we do, thank you.

More often than not when I drop with my team, we win the game, and if it weren't for the fact that we communicate with our PUG players, and they communicate back with us, we wouldn't be nearly so successful.

Thanks for getting our back.

Are there PUG players who DC, suicide farm, stand around AFK, or wander off to die solo? Sure there are. However I find these problems to be much less frequent than many others who post around here. Why?

Because we don't treat our PUG players like so much dead weight. Start treating those you are playing with respectfully, and you can see a world of difference.

[MadPanda]

In my previous game I got shot in the back right at the start of the game so your argument is invalid.

^^

[Soundscream]

I would like to second this, Usually our lance leader will claim Commander and put up waypoints and holler out a basic strat at the begining. Most follow that and we leave the more difficult timing strats and self sacrificing stuff to us. I routinly step in the line of fire or missles to save my pug teammates in my atlas. Mutual respect paves a road to great success.

[Shalune]

Came in expecting a troll thread based on the title, but was pleasantly surprised.

I gotta agree as well. Even in pure pugs, I find people in this game are more willing to follow direction than in most when someone takes charge. Gold text gets people's attention too. Stay groovy MWO community.

[Faldrin]

I am a pug player due to my nature. But have noticed the last day or 2 that some pre-made groups have been placing way points and almost everyone in the team waits around that point with a scout or scouts run off. All the players that are crying about pugs make me laugh as I bet they don't do it. So thank you and the Pre-mades that are acting as commanders.

[Damocles 1]

i've had to beef up my rear armor so as not to die from friendly fire

[Darth JarJar]

I too have had (some) good results with pubs. I will frequently announce in team chat that we are a WSB 4-man, and usually the pubs are willing to follow orders, at least initially, though to be fair once I'm engaged in the furball I no longer bother to call targets for them and they tend to wander at that point. So I'm with the OP, thanks for playing along, and You're Welcome for all the checks in the 'win' column

[Screech]

Good stuff. And thank you to any and all who take the time to help puggers with some common tips and tactics. Many of the unwashed might be the future recruits, albeit cannon-fodder, of your groups. But hell, war is mainly about attrition so who doesn't need some gauss round magnets around to take the heat off.

But once again, thanks games have been less herp-derp recently.

[Ghogiel]

I can't help it, it's that firing delay on my gauss and ssrms, I've fired and you premades just run into my fire arc like lemmings.

[ski2060]

I wish I could find better pugs these days. In CB it was not too bad finding a good PUG that listened and communicated.
For most of OB I've been grouping up.
This morning I decided to get a few PUG games in before work. I dropped in 4 games.
Every single game, I tried to communicate plans, point out defense areas, and get some coordination going.
3 games not a single person on my team would respond to chat or at least TRY to coordinate. Lost all 3.

The last game the entire team ran out into the open water areas on Forest Colony against a team that ws working together and got slaughtered.
I was the last mech alive and ran like a ***** offering power down surrender so I wouldn't have to eat a huge repair bill on my upgraded Cat C1. Their entire team was shooting at me, but stopped when I powered down. THEN, my team decided to break radio silence and complain about me not going down shooting.
What, like I'm supposed to listen to them after being completely ignored trying to coordinate some defense?


Given the cruddy morning, I would love to say THANK YOU to those non-grouping PUGGERS that will listen, help coordinate, and play with some teamwork. We all appreciate your help and team play.

Edited by ski2060, 11 November 2012 - 09:28 AM.

[Taiji]

I'm sure all the best players pug.

You never know who is on your team.

It's always worth a quick shout out to let them know you're premade and willing to command for them.

Great thread, Lefty Lucy.

[Kelb]

Communication is almost always key. Unfortunately we tend to focus on the negative like getting deliberately targeted by teammates. Thank-you for this thread.

[Celesteel]

Always liked you Lefty Lucy, but this thread tuly made my day! On that note, thank you for making this game even better. YOU ROCK!

[Ghogiel]

Taiji, on 11 November 2012 - 09:27 AM, said:

I'm sure all the best players pug.

You never know who is on your team.

Most of the best players I have played with I have caught pugging. There are a 3-4 clans though that are stacked with good players that makes it hard to see how good they actually are when you only play them as a pugger. They seem pretty good from the outside.

Bring on 1v1s and solaris!

[Jman5]

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Because we don't treat our PUG players like so much dead weight. Start treating those you are playing with respectfully, and you can see a world of difference.

I got in a game with LeftyLucy a little while back and can confirm they were very respectful and professional.

I've noticed 99% of premade groups either flat out ignore you (and somehow expect you to magically know the plan), or they instantly deride you when they die.

I initiate conversation in all my games just to get people talking, but premades are the worst as communicating with the rest of the team. You're seen as useless until it's time to lay blame on their loss. Then they have no problem communicating.

Edited by Jman5, 11 November 2012 - 09:37 AM.

[maxmarechal]

playing as PUg and i've noticed more and more 4-man premades are willing to lead and make us stick together...
much more fun !!!!!and rewarding
thanks for effort ,premades...!!!

[AlexWildeagle]

Lefty Lucy, on 11 November 2012 - 09:02 AM, said:

When I drop with my team, and you are eager and capable of following our orders, thank you.

When you do just as much damage, and get just as many kills as we do, thank you.

More often than not when I drop with my team, we win the game, and if it weren't for the fact that we communicate with our PUG players, and they communicate back with us, we wouldn't be nearly so successful.

Thanks for getting our back.

Are there PUG players who DC, suicide farm, stand around AFK, or wander off to die solo? Sure there are. However I find these problems to be much less frequent than many others who post around here. Why?

Because we don't treat our PUG players like so much dead weight. Start treating those you are playing with respectfully, and you can see a world of difference.

Enjoyed playing with you. One of the better premades I worked with.

Edited by AlexWildeagle, 11 November 2012 - 09:48 AM.

[Mr 144]

Yer shapin up to be a very good PugBoss Lefty We appreciate the effort. Yes, Pugs can, will, an do listen if someone takes control. This means more than things like 'plan?' or 'don't die'. To all those commanders out there that make use of battle orders...Thank you!

Mr 144

P.S. Sorry for all the DC's last night. My internet was really wonky.

Edited by Mr 144, 11 November 2012 - 09:45 AM.

[8RoundsRapid]

You're welcome!

[Lefty Lucy]

Mr 144, on 11 November 2012 - 09:41 AM, said:

Yer shapin up to be a very good PugBoss Lefty We appreciate the effort. Yes, Pugs can, will, an do listen if someone takes control. This means more than things like 'plan?' or 'don't die'. To all those commanders out there that make use of battle orders...Thank you!

Mr 144

P.S. Sorry for all the DC's last night. My internet was really wonky.

Yeah, even after you left it seemed like every game one of us would have an issue, either alex crashing to desk top or me with the 4FPS bug.

One game I got the 4 FPS bug and just sort of tried to stay in the battle line, making myself a target. Ended up wandering into the enemy base before I got killed, but at least I was a distraction I somehow got a kill assist with zero damage dealt...