18 replies to this topic

[Dukarriope]

So does adding a third AC2 result in a faster firing cycle than two, or do I still only get 120RPM?

[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

I assume you are chain firing them. Obviously if you aren't then there'd be no change in firing cycle (since they'd all fire simultaneously and would thus recharge at the same time).

All things being equal I'd drop the third AC2 and roll with more secondary weapons/ammo/heatsinks/armor/engine/whatever.

[p00k]

if you're just holding down the button in chain fire mode, 2 ac2's actually is more than enough (actually you're wasting some ROF). 3 adds nothing

now, since you can manually advance to the next weapon with additional clicks, then if you click really really fast then i suppose yes, the 3rd ac2 does speed up your overall ROF

[One Medic Army]

One AC/2 fires at one round every .5 seconds.
Two fire at one round every .5 seconds each.
If you toggle chain-fire on a pair they alternate with about .25second gap. (backspace toggles chainfire)
If you toggle chainfire on a group of 3 you get no advantage, which is why most people with 3 make a group of 2 on chainfire, and put a third separate and manually delay it a little bit.

[Dukarriope]

I was now considering putting them on two separate groups for a 4+2 punch...

[Khobai]

you gain no real benefit out of chain-firing AC/2s

[Eshek]

Khobai, on 11 November 2012 - 11:44 PM, said:

you gain no real benefit out of chain-firing AC/2s

I respectfully disagree! You see: Dakka!

[Gorith]

Having used double and triple AC2s quite often. chain firing 3 is no faster than 2 what you have to do is put the 3rd in it's own group to gain the bonus ROF from it otherwise your just wasting tonnage.

[Khobai]

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I respectfully disagree! You see: Dakka!

It's better to do 6 damage in one location than 2 damage in three seperate locations. That's why it's much better to fire AC/2s at the same time than chain-fire them. Youre also still knocking the target once every 0.5 seconds which is more than sufficient to throw off their aim. And there's no benefit to chain-firing three AC/2s anyway because the weapon cooldown is faster than the cycle time at that point.

Edited by Khobai, 12 November 2012 - 12:18 AM.

[Volthorne]

Khobai, on 12 November 2012 - 12:12 AM, said:

It's better to do 6 damage in one location than 2 damage in three seperate locations. That's why it's much better to fire the AC/2s at the same time than chain-fire them. Youre also still knocking the target once every 0.5 seconds which is more than sufficient to throw off their aim.

Dakka beats logic. Every time.

[Gristle]

Khobai, on 12 November 2012 - 12:12 AM, said:

It's better to do 6 damage in one location than 2 damage in three seperate locations. That's why it's much better to fire the AC/2s at the same time than chain-fire them. Youre also still knocking the target once every 0.5 seconds which is more than sufficient to throw off their aim.

but...but...chainfiring 2 AC2's sounds so much cooler.

[sekzwee]

Gorith, on 12 November 2012 - 12:04 AM, said:

Having used double and triple AC2s quite often. chain firing 3 is no faster than 2 what you have to do is put the 3rd in it's own group to gain the bonus ROF from it otherwise your just wasting tonnage.

and yet you still havent found that holding down the relevent fire key is much slower firing than just clicking and releasing and clicking and releasing.. rinse... repeat

since the click and release advances chain fire onto the next group without the delay that holding down the button does

[Dorque]

I'm running three AC-5s right now, it's rather fun.

[Khobai]

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I'm running three AC-5s right now, it's rather fun.

Cataphract 4X will let you do two UAC/5s and two AC/5s

[Johnny Reb]

Nope if chain firing only need 2 to have a constant barrage.

[Dorque]

Khobai, on 12 November 2012 - 12:19 AM, said:

Cataphract 4X will let you do two UAC/5s and two AC/5s

Working on my Hunchie variant XP right now, but it's a good thought.

More than anything though it takes people by surprise who think that they can ignore the medium to go after someone else.

[Khobai]

I liked the dual UAC/5 centurion more than the three AC/5 hunchback. It did way more damage. And with an unjam macro you arnt really even affected by the jamming.

[Gristle]

Dorque, on 12 November 2012 - 12:16 AM, said:

I'm running three AC-5s right now, it's rather fun.

Really? What chassis?

The only one that could do this is the HBK-4G, but you'd have to strip so much armor it would be a glass cannon.

Edited by Gristle, 12 November 2012 - 12:30 AM.

[Dorque]

Gristle, on 12 November 2012 - 12:27 AM, said:

Really? What chassis?

Hunchback HBK-4G.

::EDIT::

Backed the engine down to a standard 180, stripped all of the gear and armour from the arms, shaved a little off the legs. The rest is at full armour capacity. Three AC-5s in the right torso, six tonnes of ammo in the left.

Edited by Dorque, 12 November 2012 - 12:35 AM.