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[metro]

Archimedes Sung, on 29 March 2012 - 03:38 AM, said:

So would capellan death commandos be considered a warrior house? or are they picked from warrior houses?

Yes to question one, even though its not officially a warrior house, since they are the CCAF military.

Yes to question two, many a commando hailed from existing warrior houses.

[Scanlon]

I disagree with Metro, I do believe the Death Commandos are not a warrior house, theyre a special CCAF unit. Remember that the warrior houses exist alongside the CCAF not as part of it.

But they do recruit mechwarriors from the warrior houses.

[Scanlon]

@Thorn Hallis,

Im still looking forward to that detailed description and excepts about warrior house Lu Sann, and the Lorix orders. No rush though.

-Scanlon

Edited by Scanlon, 30 March 2012 - 07:03 AM.

[Thorn Hallis]

The Lorix Order

As a quasi-religious, quasi-military order dedicated to the precepts of the Sarna Mandate,
the Lorix Order is ostensibly dedicated to the service of the state and the equal
protection of all Confederation citizens. In reality, the contempory Lorix Order has a
twofold mission: to support the continuation of the current art of war as exemplified by
the BattleMech and the MechWarrior, and to serve as the philosophical model for the
Capellean Warrior Houses.
The orginal Order of Lorix was founden in 2672 by Major Kalvar Lorix, a competent 'Mech
commander who was as widely known for his gambling and womanizing as for his tactical
expertise. Badly injured when his training command ambushed on Chesterton, Lorix was forced
to endure an extended convalescence. During that time, he formulated the philosophical
premises that were later published and critically acclaimed in high govemmental circles.

Kalvar Lorix's dictums included the following:

1. The individual citizen has the right to expect the highest degree of professionalism
from the officers who decide his fate.

2. The highest order of warrior and defender is, and forever shall be, the MechWarrior.

3. MechWarriors are and should remain a special breen unto themselbes. They should be
accorded the highest honor possible, and in turn should be expected to perform the most
outstanding feats of daring in defense of the state and its citizens.

4. To perform the most important tasks, MechWarriors must be afforded the opportunities
to advance their various skills and expertise to the highest possible level. To this end,
war is an acceptable way of life because it inevitably contributes to the defense of the
state through the increased skill of its defenders.

5. Once a MechWarrior has reached the summit of his profession, only another MechWarrior
has the right to terminate his life. Conversely, in certain cases (such as personal or
professional betrayal), the MechWarrior has the right to exact personal retribution
without fear of reprisal.

6. The highest and most omportant ideal in any MechWarrior's life is loyality: to the
citizenry he protects, to the state that provides, and to the chief executive of the state,
who is the MechWarrior's commander-in-chief.

The original Lorix Order lasted only a quarter of a century. Nobles complained that
acolytes were hard to dicipline and often questioned tactics instead of simly obeying
their superiors. The Order was forced to disband. Later, Coloned Hiritza Hikaru,
adopting some of Major Lorix's original tenets, developed a somewhat revised warrior-caste
concept. Unlike Lorix, who merely assumed state support for his Order, Hikaru carefully
cultivated compatriots in high places, eventually allying himself with House Liao. Thus,
Hiraku set Warrior House guidelines, from which has developed an elite warrior class
within a controlled society, loyal and responsible only to their own House leaders and
to House Liao.


Warrior House Lu Sann

Troi Lu Sann founded the fourth Warrior House on strict adherence to the principles of
the Lorix Order, with little else clouding his warriors' minds. Lu Sann believed in apllying
the Lorix Order's tenets throughout Capellean society; citizens must demonstrate devotion to
a high moral code in oder to deserve protection, and the Chancellor must similarly be held
accountable for his actions and orders. This view of the Lorix Order has made House Lu Sann
prone to citicize Chancellors in the past, so its warriors rarely reeiver a fanatical
loyality rating.
This distinction rarely caused difficuly for the House until Lu Sann was shattered in the
Fourth Succession War. The death of senior officers and Sifu allowed surviving House
members greater leeway in interpreting their order's centuries-old principles. With
Maximilian Liao's descent into madness followed by Romano Liao's ruthlessness, the mostly
green House Leadership drifted even further afield.

[Aldous]

Archimedes Sung, on 29 March 2012 - 03:38 AM, said:

So would capellan death commandos be considered a warrior house? or are they picked from warrior houses?

They may be picked from Warrior House Members but they are NOT a warrior house. Warrior Houses operate under strict rules and traditions. Death Commandos have no rules.

[Volturnus]

Archimedes Sung, on 29 March 2012 - 03:38 AM, said:

So would capellan death commandos be considered a warrior house? or are they picked from warrior houses?

As Aldous said, they are not a Warrior House, in fact they are meant to counterbalance the Warrior Houses by giving the C.C.A.F. a similarly prestigious unit. While their members were originally only selected from the Warrior Houses, this is not always the case, as in 3003 Max Liao opened membership to any sufficiently distinguished C.C.A.F. officer. They are technically a part of the military even though they operate outside it; they have the authority to execute any Capellan soldier or member of the nobility. They are also allowed unrestricted access to any equipment they need, and can take command of any C.C.A.F. unit.
(From Sarna)

[Thorn Hallis]

Volturnus, on 26 April 2012 - 05:07 PM, said:

As Aldous said, they are not a Warrior House, in fact they are meant to counterbalance the Warrior Houses by giving the C.C.A.F. a similarly prestigious unit. (From Sarna)

Well no, thats not the case. Like the Warrior Houses, the Death Commandos are only responsible to the Chancellor. They stand above the CCAF.

[Volturnus]

Thorn Hallis, on 27 April 2012 - 02:40 AM, said:

Well no, thats not the case. Like the Warrior Houses, the Death Commandos are only responsible to the Chancellor. They stand above the CCAF.

From Sarna:

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A CCAF formation, unlike the Warrior Houses, which exist outside of the regular Capellan military and are loyal to the person of the Chancellor, they are meant to counterbalance the Warrior Houses and appease feelings of jealousy within the CCAF by giving the military a similarly prestigeous and capable unit.

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All Death Commandos are officers, holding a rank one grade above that required for their position in the unit, which allows them to take command of other CCAF forces as necessary.

Yes, they answer only to the Chancellor but they are still technically a part of the C.C.A.F. (as far as I can tell anyway, I don't know how accurate Sarna is)

Edited by Volturnus, 27 April 2012 - 03:17 AM.

[Thorn Hallis]

Thats a point where sarna is simply wrong. Like the Warrior Houses the Commandos are more of a check to the CCAF.

[Volturnus]

Thorn Hallis, on 27 April 2012 - 04:24 AM, said:

Thats a point where sarna is simply wrong. Like the Warrior Houses the Commandos are more of a check to the CCAF.

Hmm, well, if you've got any literature on the subject, point me towards it, I'm always interested in learning more about the CapCon.

[Thorn Hallis]

House Liao housebook and Field Manual Capellean Confederation

[Volturnus]

Thorn Hallis, on 27 April 2012 - 05:50 AM, said:

House Liao housebook and Field Manual Capellean Confederation

Thank you.

[metro]

Metro, on 29 March 2012 - 04:41 AM, said:

Yes to question one, even though its not officially a warrior house, since they are the CCAF military.

Yes to question two, many a commando hailed from existing warrior houses.

Scanlon, on 30 March 2012 - 06:48 AM, said:

I disagree with Metro, I do believe the Death Commandos are not a warrior house, theyre a special CCAF unit. Remember that the warrior houses exist alongside the CCAF not as part of it.

But they do recruit mechwarriors from the warrior houses.

The DC are not an official warrior house, they behave as their own warrior house because they have their own set rules they adhere too. They are a part of the CCAF and answer directly to the Chancellor. They have pulled warriors from the other warrior houses.

I hope this helps clarify.

Either way, Its great to see everyone talking about the universe.