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[Revamp]

Is the game in open beta still or is it officially live?

[Tickdoff Tank]

Open Beta

[Matist]

Open beta. But I don't think they're going to do another wipe, so for all intents and purposes it's "live". Just expect a lot of bugs and a huge amount of balancing, tweaks, and needed content.

[Taryys]

This is the second thread on this topic.

Open Beta.

[Tekerton]

Matist, on 12 November 2012 - 10:53 AM, said:

Open beta. But I don't think they're going to do another wipe, so for all intents and purposes it's "live". Just expect a lot of bugs and a huge amount of balancing, tweaks, and needed content.

So let me get this straight...

4 Test Maps...small test maps at that.
No meta-game where Houses vie for control of galactic regions and planetary control
No guilds/corporations
Major balancing of weapons and secondary systems still the primary focus of development releases
Bare bones chat system
No lobby
No VOIP

This is what you think PGI has planned? This is their vision?

Wrong. No. Negative. No fuggin Way, No Fuggin How. Ergo, this is BETA. This is NOT Live. The lack of further wipes is so irrelevant to Any part of the equation. I'm gobsmacked that the status of wipes enters anyone's mind in relation to the status of the development cycle.

The beta client we have now is just and only that: a Beta Client.

The glaring lack of features that will be in The Actual Game should be all anyone needs to know regarding the status of the game-to-be. Somehow, this gets missed and/or completely disregarded in lieu of personal wants and pontifical blathering aimed at redefining what has no industry wide acceptance as a single, definable term in the first place (i.e...Open Beta).

Marinate on this before making any response, Community-At-Large. If you disagree, which many will no doubt, just remember that you don't get to decide what the state of the game is at present. PGI decides that. We're just the Beta Testers. For, you know...the Beta in which we are taking part.

Edited by Tekerton, 12 November 2012 - 11:04 AM.

[CMDR Sunset Shimmer]

Open Beta = Live for F2P games.

The company can just hide behind the term "Open Beta" to cover up mistakes they make.

[udon]

Tickdoff Tank, on 12 November 2012 - 10:52 AM, said:

Open Beta

Why? Name a single thing that will change for players between how the game stands today and when it's "released". Your stats won't change, your character won't be wiped, you don't get refunded any purchases you make, nothing will change at all. PGI get's all the advantages of a commercial release without any of the responsibilities.

Just because a developer wants to try and get all the benefits of releasing a game to market but avoid the bad press of having tons of crippling bugs and missing features by calling it "open beta" doesn't mean they should.

Edited by udon, 12 November 2012 - 11:07 AM.

[Psydotek]

Jade Kitsune, on 12 November 2012 - 11:04 AM, said:

Open Beta = Live for F2P games.

The company can just hide behind the term "Open Beta" to cover up mistakes they make.

This.

With no guaranteed resets in the future, the ability to permanently spend your MCs, and a fairly small set of maps/'mechs available, I have very little incentive to actually try and play right now.

[Suko]

Revamp, on 12 November 2012 - 10:51 AM, said:

Is the game in open beta still or is it officially live?

They are taking your money in exchange for their product. This game is LIVE, no matter how much everyone wants to pretend it's in beta.

[Harmatia]

I believe PGI has said multiple times in the past that MW:O will never really be out of beta in the sense things will change, be added and likely removed as time goes on. That said I believe "live" for them is when they have the game up to the feature/content level they feel represents the beginning of what they want to accomplish.

[M Jordanus Sicarius]

I don't think people understand what the difference is between LIVE and beta. They needed to move into this type of beta to get more money in, doesn't mean the game will be like this. Beta is still a process of polishing, updating and adding new content. Isn't that what this is? Live is is more or less the final game, with further updates being major content updates.

[Taidan]

This is what IGP would call a "Live Minimum Viable Product".

[whiskey tango foxtrot]

If it quacks like a duck , has webbed feet like a duck and a bill like a duck , it's a duck.

It's your duck , you can call it a turkey if you wish.

That does'nt change the fact it's a duck. This game is live.

[Staplebeater]

They have stated on multiple instances that it is open beta. They are still testing. The core gameplay is working (mechs killing other mechs) a lot of what we are griping about is window dressing. DHS i think are good at this point. There are a couple weapon balance issues but look at other games there are always balance issues there always will be. But the core is good

[Virisken]

Jade Kitsune, on 12 November 2012 - 11:04 AM, said:

Open Beta = Live for F2P games.

The company can just hide behind the term "Open Beta" to cover up mistakes they make.

cant say it better

[Tekerton]

ShadowVFX, on 12 November 2012 - 11:26 AM, said:

They are taking your money in exchange for their product. This game is LIVE, no matter how much everyone wants to pretend it's in beta.

Incorrect. They are offering the individual users the Option to enhance their experience if they so choose. Nobody is being forced to spend a dime. Just because "You" choose to spend money doesn't change any of the facts I previously posted. Again, it boils down to what "you" think the vision for the project truly is. If anyone believes that what we have now is The Game, you have some seriously low expectations.

[Namwons]

i wouldn't consider it live until we get community warfare

[Asgeir]

In before the inevitable lock.

And oh yeah...

Open Beta.

[RAM]

The official answer is 'Open Beta' - thank you!


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