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[Dewil]

...It was "Don't drive a Dragon".

My reply to that: "Learn to play it right!"

Unfortunately, not even a Dragon can save the game all by itself...

4 Large Lasers + Double Heatsinks + Endosteel +. XL300 + 8 DHS =

(yes, I was on the blue team )

Having 4 Large Lasers is hilarious... I found an Atlas that had a slightly damaged center torso. So I fired all lasers at it and before he found me I fired a second time and killed him. A mighty Atlas taken down in 5 seconds. I would have loved to hear his reaction...

I can really recommend this Dragon. It isn't cheap, but it is fun to play. And you can fire two of the Large lasers and still be very close to Heat Neutral so when the going gets tough you can keep fighting for a long time.

Edited by Dewil, 13 November 2012 - 03:34 PM.

[Kinjiro]

Loadout?

[Bloody Moon]

Kinjiro, on 13 November 2012 - 03:56 PM, said:

Loadout?

Kidding right?

Dewil, on 13 November 2012 - 03:21 PM, said:

4 Large Lasers + Double Heatsinks + Endosteel +. XL300 + 8 DHS =

[Rogbull]

That does sound like a good setup. When I think Dragon I see a hard to use balistic arm. But what you have there is a speedy large laser boat. No box can hold you!

[Grizley]

Of course you can do the same thing with 3-4 large lasers in a cat... Just saying.

[Ryebear]

Having torso and arms sharing weapon group is a real pain to use. I dont think this one is for me. Though I cant contest that is an awesome round

[Hauser]

Ryebear, on 13 November 2012 - 04:39 PM, said:

Having torso and arms sharing weapon group is a real pain to use. I dont think this one is for me. Though I cant contest that is an awesome round

You don't have to put them in the same weapon group. You can use the arrows keys + right control to customize the weapon groups. If you have more then 3 in use you might want to rebind weapon groups 4&5 to Q&E so they're easy to get to.

[Tuhalu]

Catapult K2 can do pretty much the same. Slightly slower, slightly more armor and heatsinks, different profile.

The really major difference is the Catapult K2 spreads its weapons across the whole mech. Losing an arm loses you 1 large laser and a heat sink or two. On the dragon, it's either a heat sink or two (the ballistic arm) or 2 large lasers and a heat sink (the laser arm).

Not sure that one is better than the other. I haven't driven any heavies lately. But usually it's the pilot, not the mech that wins battles

[BlackSquirrel]

Edit stupid question.

Edited by BlackSquirrel, 13 November 2012 - 05:25 PM.

[RealSteel1981]

I Love the Dragon. Own all three variants.
Agile for a 60 ton mech. Even without an XL 300+ Engine.

AND yes, 4 Medium Laser, AC 5,DHS, endo-Steel, 300 standart Engine is Fun.

Its simple, and very usable. Sometimes i have Trouble to recordnize another Dragon in a Fight.
Some Kind of Natural Camouflage surrounds it ... too simple Designd to be dangours ?

Love sneaking around the battlefield to catch LRM cats for Free. Works perfect with a Dragon.
No resistance at all from that ammo filled walking victim.

Heat effincy is brillant through all variants.

I Wish there Would be another Variant in the Future.

My Garage is too empty right Now.

[DivineEvil]

The greatest flaw of the Dragon mech, is that his LT/RT are just way too small compared to his CT, which is accessible for focus-fire from any direction. This makes him the easiest mech to core-down. Also, while he has stronger Engine possible to install into it, the limit of torso twisting (~180 only, compared to Cata's ~320 degrees) makes that benefit rather useless, since anyone can out-circle you with ease.

[MagicHamsta]

Dewil, on 13 November 2012 - 03:21 PM, said:

A mighty Atlas taken down in 5 seconds. I would have loved to hear his reaction...

Unfortunately not even an Atlas can save the game all by itself:

[H Koppinen]

OP: Me and my lancemates from the Blazing Aces were on the other side, if I recall correctly. A brutal close range brawl centered around the back entrance to the tunnel in Frozen City. And yeah there was some annoyance with some of your kills. To be fair to your teammates though, they weren't completely useless. It was a pretty good game altogether.

Edited by H Koppinen, 14 November 2012 - 07:09 AM.

[Redshift2k5]

I run 4 Large Laser in my K2, and it works quite well! If I HAD to drive a Dragon I'd consider 4x LL, but I'd rather... not drive a Dragon.

[xenoglyph]

If you think the Dragon is fun, try the Atlas RS with 4 LL and a Gauss rifle.

[Dewil]

H Koppinen, on 14 November 2012 - 07:08 AM, said:

OP: Me and my lancemates from the Blazing Aces were on the other side, if I recall correctly. A brutal close range brawl centered around the back entrance to the tunnel in Frozen City. And yeah there was some annoyance with some of your kills. To be fair to your teammates though, they weren't completely useless. It was a pretty good game altogether.

That is correct. It was a very intense brawl. Once I locked on to you I made a mental note where you were damaged so the next time you showed up I could keep aiming for the same spot. But when the guy I was playing with (Cr_Tiger) said that an Atlas entered the tunnel behind us I just said "screw this, the fastest way out is forwards!". I was genuinly surprised that I survived that mad dash but I had no other options.

Hopefully positive annoyance
You will all probably get a chance for revenge in the future

All in all, a great game. I was just lucky to be in a tight tunnel with a right hand turn. Excellent when all your weapons are far out to the left side of your Mech. Gives you the option to shoot past the corner.

[Dirus Nigh]

I used a catapult with four large lasers, had good results. Ran hot but I can handle that.

[SmithMPBT]

Dirus Nigh, on 14 November 2012 - 08:31 AM, said:

I used a catapult with four large lasers, had good results. Ran hot but I can handle that.

It can do great damage if you're CT'ing each shot and on damaged mech cleanup, but after 3 alphas i was overheated. From then one i had to either wait like 20 seconds for another shot or limit my fire to 2 LL. This was OK in a 1 on 1 duel but it got hairy with multiple baddies were around, even with your team backing ya up.

[Elyam]

On Dragon or Catapult I prefer 2 LLAS and 2 MPLAS since it keeps the heat much more manageable and thus more shots per minute.

[Legionn]

DivineEvil, on 13 November 2012 - 10:04 PM, said:

Also, while he has stronger Engine possible to install into it, the limit of torso twisting (~180 only, compared to Cata's ~320 degrees) makes that benefit rather useless, since anyone can out-circle you with ease.

Statlab shows the Cat limited to 280 degrees. Where did you pull your numbers from?