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[Lumunix]

It seems no matter what settings im playing be it low or very high with all the eyecandy on i still get fps ranging from 12-25fps. Even if i completely disable crossfire and run with a single one of my powercolor 7970 reference cards I still get completely unplayable frame rates. In a game like Metro 2033 I can run max settings at 1080p and get upwards of 150+ fps. Crysis2 I get an average of 137fps. So I dont get what the deal is, If i run a single 7970 it seems to be stuck at <= 40% total graphics utilization. I understand that MWO is still in beta and has very little if any optimization, but come on even with the top of the line AMD graphics card I cant even get a MINIMUM of 30 fps so I can actually see what im targeting or shooting at. Anyone got any ideas
for a performance increase in the meantime, even if it is just temporary?


My system specs (AMD fan):
Cooler Master HAF-X Case
FX 8150 running at 3.6ghz stock
Corsair h60 closed loop water cooler
Crosshair V Formula Motherboard
Corsair ax1200 I power supply
8gb 1600mhz Corsair Vengence ram
3x Powercolor 7970 graphics cards
120gb Corsair Force GT SSD
500gb WD Black Harddrive

[Aznpersuasion89]

i dont think this game is set up for crossfire let alone anything more then that. myself and a few others have noticed that no matter what we get between 20-60 FPS. i get said FPS while only utilizing 50% of my single 7850.

[GrimlockONE]

See my thread Good Rig Bad Frames for full description but your setup should kill. All of us here have more then enough power to run this game at great settings. I have a solo 6970 and get Crysis 2 with DX11 with mostly high settings to run 25-40 fps.

I just want a PGI rep or engine designer to come in here with a voice and say something anything. It could be as simple as "Hey, right now the game is not optimized. We are looking into it."

As of right now I am disheartened that I cannot run the game decently on any Res or any Settings. Or at least I cannot consistently.

[Barbaric Soul]

No idea why either of you are getting such bad performance(talking to oyu too Grimlock). At 1920*1200 resolution, all setting set to the highest setting except motion blur which is turned off, I never drop below 57 fps. My system specs-

CPU- 2600k OC'ed 4.2ghz
MB- MSI Z68A-GD80(gen3)
RAM- 8 gig ddr3 1600
GFX- XFX Core edition HD7970 OC'ed 1100core/1400memory
SSD- OCZ Vertex2 128gb
HD- Seagate 7200.12 500GB
PSU- XFX triple-X edition 750 watt

[Swiss Beats]

Wow I expected more from that setup. I have a crappy AMD XII 555 BE with 8GB of ram and a 660 Ti and I run three 24-inch monitors at full res pulling 30-60 at medium settings. There must be something else going on in your system.

[Lumunix]

demonr6, on 02 November 2012 - 07:53 AM, said:

Wow I expected more from that setup. I have a crappy AMD XII 555 BE with 8GB of ram and a 660 Ti and I run three 24-inch monitors at full res pulling 30-60 at medium settings. There must be something else going on in your system.

Nothing is wrong with my system when every other game is pulling constant 100+ frames in games, its honestly MWO's extremely poor optimization for Multi-core processors and Multi-gpu setups, not to mention at the moment were stuck on DX 9 an antiquated graphical standard so that might also cause a performance hit for newer cards. With multi gpu setups if a game is not optimized you can see NEGATIVE scaling for FPS in games.

[Barbaric Soul]

YellowDragon, on 02 November 2012 - 01:59 PM, said:

. With multi gpu setups if a game is not optimized you can see NEGATIVE scaling for FPS in games.

MW:O doesn't support crossfire or SLI right now. So running multiple GPU's will not yeild any benefits. Your bad performance I don't believe has anything to do with the game not being optimised for multi-core multi-gpu performance. I had a pair of 5870 cards in crossfire before I got my 7970, and I still had better performance than your getting. With the 5870 cards, I got 45-60 fps, 1920*1200 res, all settings on the highest settings available at the time. That was with either a single 5870 running, or both in crossfire. And about multi-core CPU's, when playing MW:O, all 8 processing threads are used with my 2600k.

[mechnut450]

I know I am running only a
quad core ( oc to 4.0 ghZ)
8 gig ram
1tb harddrive
windows 7 pro
and a gt640 card I watching my fps in the rough 30s on high and medium game settings. I may hook my gtx 275 back up in the computer and see if it ups the frames or if hurts ( compare when ran alone )

[StainlessSR]

I don't know for sure but it seems as if AMD cpu's are getting worse performance than Intel cpu's. As this is really a CPU intensive setup that PGI is running on the engine, that may be the problem. I am not trying to start a flame war about AMD vs. Intel and which is better. This is something that the dev's may need to look into in order to allow better optimization across the range of processors with Cryengine 3.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

StainlessSR, on 05 November 2012 - 07:44 AM, said:

I don't know for sure but it seems as if AMD cpu's are getting worse performance than Intel cpu's. As this is really a CPU intensive setup that PGI is running on the engine, that may be the problem. I am not trying to start a flame war about AMD vs. Intel and which is better. This is something that the dev's may need to look into in order to allow better optimization across the range of processors with Cryengine 3.

Sad but true, my 8120 gave worse performance than my 2500k 30/40 FPS compared to 50/60 now.
I have another guy in our unit who is now facing up to the same issue.

It would be interesting to see if this was just a Bulldozer issue tho.

[Corwin111]

YellowDragon, on 01 November 2012 - 07:27 AM, said:

It seems no matter what settings im playing be it low or very high with all the eyecandy on i still get fps ranging from 12-25fps. Even if i completely disable crossfire and run with a single one of my powercolor 7970 reference cards I still get completely unplayable frame rates. In a game like Metro 2033 I can run max settings at 1080p and get upwards of 150+ fps. Crysis2 I get an average of 137fps. So I dont get what the deal is, If i run a single 7970 it seems to be stuck at <= 40% total graphics utilization. I understand that MWO is still in beta and has very little if any optimization, but come on even with the top of the line AMD graphics card I cant even get a MINIMUM of 30 fps so I can actually see what im targeting or shooting at. Anyone got any ideas
for a performance increase in the meantime, even if it is just temporary?


My system specs (AMD fan):
Cooler Master HAF-X Case
FX 8150 running at 3.6ghz stock
Corsair h60 closed loop water cooler
Crosshair V Formula Motherboard
Corsair ax1200 I power supply
8gb 1600mhz Corsair Vengence ram
3x Powercolor 7970 graphics cards
120gb Corsair Force GT SSD
500gb WD Black Harddrive

Elementary. You sir, suffer from a severe Intel/Nvidia defficency.

Now fanboy talk aside, I have seen many people with high end AMD cpus and ATI cards suffer from low FPS. As far as anyone was able to gather - the game has still not been optimized to utilize them properly but they are working on it and will have it fixed before release.

I get steady 50-60 FPS with a 2500k and a single GTX 470.

Edited by Corwin111, 06 November 2012 - 12:03 PM.

[Nachocheese]

got reduced performance since last update, about 40 % less performance, maybe it gets better today.
also my gpu isnt really used but the cpu gets stressed more than before.

@OP you had better performance in earlier versions?

Edited by Nachocheese, 06 November 2012 - 12:34 PM.

[Bug Killer]

Well I running a i7 - K875 with 8 GB on Win 7x64 with two GTX-285's in SLI. Now I relize that this is a "Use to be a top of the line" system a couple of years ago but it still isnt a slouch today.

I can report the same FPS rating as alot of people have reported here. -40 to +50 FPS normally and when under alot of load / action 25 to 30 FPS with spikes above and below those numbers.

There is something not working right and I hope at least they get the SLI thing working! I would hate to have to get two newer top of the line video cards presently. These work fine and I have 3 screens and I dont want to go down to 2.

Advice is always welcomed.

XMEN Bug Killer

[Lumunix]

Nachocheese, on 06 November 2012 - 12:33 PM, said:

got reduced performance since last update, about 40 % less performance, maybe it gets better today.
also my gpu isnt really used but the cpu gets stressed more than before.

@OP you had better performance in earlier versions?

In earlier versions I had better performance on average 40fps on a single card since xfire inst working correctly with mwo , the two most recent patches pushed it down to the point of borderline unplayable. Reinstall does not help and I even tried the 12.11 beta drivers which didn't do anything for frames.

[Hakkukakt]

hello .... yeps for the moment ... the graphic motor is not optimized yet (it remember the bêta on gw2 ... the graphic motor too was not optimized ... he has been just a few time before the release game)

driver 310.33

Setup 1 : SLI GTX560 1Go, i5 3570K, screen 24" 1920x1200 => 45 - 50 fps (very high detail, vsync on, motion blur off, AA on)

so my pleasure for this year => go for 3 screen on 27"

Setup 2 : SLI GTX560 1Go, i5 3570K, tri screen 27" 5760x1080 => 12 - 15 fps (high detail, vsync on, motion blur off, AA off) ... hum not really playable ....

so after a little upgrade

Setup 3 : GTX680 4Go, i5 3570K, tri screen 27" 5760x1080 => 25 - 30 fps (high detail, vsync on, motion blur off, AA off)

when the SLI wil working

Setup 4 : SLI GTX680 4Go, i5 3570K, tri screen 27" 5760x1080 => ??????? wait and see

Edited by Hakkukakt, 07 November 2012 - 04:59 PM.

[Sen]

This is gonna sound a little excessive but: have you tried physically removing all but a single card and seeing what that does?

yes, I know it shouldn't make a difference if it's disabled or removed completely, but it doesn't hurt to try it.

[GB Tarkus]

WOW no SLI Lame.

[Lumunix]

Sen, on 08 November 2012 - 08:47 PM, said:

This is gonna sound a little excessive but: have you tried physically removing all but a single card and seeing what that does?

yes, I know it shouldn't make a difference if it's disabled or removed completely, but it doesn't hurt to try it.

Physically removing the cards wont do a thing, I have tried removing the individual Xfire bridges and its the same result. By removing the bridge the cards receive power but cannot function as anything more then case warmers. I still get the same performance regardless.

Since this topic is a bit dated ill mention that after the recent patch I've had a little better luck with FPS 40-60 on high yet heavy drops and spikey frames since I usually use light mechs. I drop down to low and i can hold a solid 30fps in all situations now no problem.

I think the Key issue in terms of graphics performance in MWO is that the netcode is a shambled mess at the moment, if i look in a direction with no units in the HUD I can get upwards of 70+FPS on very high graphics, yet as soon as you turn in a direction where there is a unit either friendly or hostile there is an immediate drop and this is not due to a 7970 not having enough power to run the game as i get no higher then 40% utilization on one card. Netcode by itself wouldn't be enough to choke the CPU into a bottleneck, there has to be something else under the hood that is not playing nice with processing. Im sure more patches will fix this problem.

GB Tarkus, on 10 November 2012 - 02:20 PM, said:

WOW no SLI Lame.

Sorry your too cross-eyed with Fanboyism to offer any sort of meaningful input.

[Mota Prefect]

Weird. I too have a powercolor 7970 and it's worked flawlessly since I bought it when building my new system in late feburary. I get 50-60 fps when in the middle of intesnse battles ( naturally with as high graphics settings allowed at the moment ). The one thing thats made any difference in how the game runs for me is what version catalyst drivers I'm using.

I too get much better proformance when playing crysis3 as opposed to MWO which at this time I chalk up to the game still being in beta. I will be pretty pist if when PGI says the game is truely optimized if I am not seeing any increase in how well the game runs.

Not sure what to suggest for your particular issue I'm afriad since I haven't run into it myself. Hope you find what's causing the problem mate!

System specs ( for comparison )

i7-2600k @ 4.6Ghz
powercolor HD7970 OC'd to the maximum allowed by CCC
Corsair force GT 180GB sata 3 SSD
16GB mushkin redline @ 2133Mhz

[T Hawk]

My HD7850 PCS+ is bored at 40% load, while my CPU (FX-4170) is probably falling asleep here and then with a max of 50% load.

The game is not making use of hardware and it is heavily optimized for Intel and Nvidia.

Hell I even switched from a HD4890 to a HD7850 PCS+ and it didn't change anything. Performance is absolutely the same. Theres no difference between the cards, I also tried multiple settings ranging from Very High all the way down to Low and nothing ever happens to my FPS.

Edited by T Hawk, 11 November 2012 - 09:54 AM.