15 replies to this topic

[Boymonkey]

Yeah I will continue to play 1st person but seeing so many are against it and some have done the "If they bring it in I will not play ever!!" thing well Iam all for it ......IF it brings more people to the game and brings in more cash so we can play this for many years to come.

[Squid von Torgar]

Or you could it could actually drive more people away from the game than it brings in.

91% against? given the numbers (over 2400) how could anyone ignore this?

But hey, I admire you misplaced loyalty.

[Keifomofutu]

This thread was completely necessary OP.

[Stradius]

Boymonkey, on 16 November 2012 - 03:55 PM, said:

Yeah I will continue to play 1st person but seeing so many are against it and some have done the "If they bring it in I will not play ever!!" thing well Iam all for it ......IF it brings more people to the game and brings in more cash so we can play this for many years to come.

Well, the problem with this is that they've be alienating all the founders who in a manner of speaking put up money to invest in this game because it was and at least currently is portrayed as a successor and proper game in the MechWarrior franchise. I'm not saying they should make this game only for the diehard fans and be happy with that. Nope. But, there is plenty of valid arguements out there that explain why 3rd person does not belong in this game.

I mean, quite literally, even suggesting third person in this game is tantamount to saying in an FPS "well, they don't know how to play with an inverted mouse so let's enable automatic aiming". It just doesn't make any lick of sense nor does it address nor help the player improve.

If PGI is serious about helping newcomers to the game and even the mechwarrior franchise, they need to create a proper IN-GAME tutorial that explains torso vs legs, how to observe their current positioning, etc. Amongst other things that new players should be introduced to. Besides, if PGI believes third person will rectify a newcomers issues with controlling both torso and legs, they will be proven wrong. People who have a hard time multi-tasking will continue to struggle and will continue walking into walls unintentionally, even in third person.

I guess if its that much of an issue, allow for torso/leg lock.

[LaznAzn]

Everyone is talking about third person view...


Can you guess what I'm doing?

[Krazyjim]

[OldGrayDonkey]

I'm not quite sure I see how driving away the fan base will bring in more customers, unless you want to build a new fan base of casual games. Sure, if that's the goal, then ok, but I don't really see that happening. MW is a small, but tight and dedicated fan base. It's been around for 30 years or so. Making the game simpler is not going to draw more people to it.

[Ravensol]

The main argument against 3rd person view is you can hide and still see around corners and over stuff and bla bla bla you guys do realize everyone will have that and it accually does fit in with the game. You are in a city you launch your remote drone it pops up and looks around a corner for you it sees a mech facing the other way. You see that jump back in fpv jump around the corner and engauge that mech. See it fits the game. Ok i know not everyone will use it that way some will use 3rdpv all the time so if you want to do if you don't don't.
But I do find it odd how this is exactly like a recent election tatic. Lets distract everyone on something that doesn't matter so they won't focus on the accual issues. How about the fact it's still only 8v8 base capture and that's it. Or the fact there is only 4 1/2 maps or that there is alot of things ingame in the mech lab that aren't working at all. And the ever popular no training of anykind. Oh and you can't forget the totally messed up trial mech situation.
I am a founder I do believe in this game's potiential but as with alot of people i am not playing atm other then when it patches because of the issues above. I jump in to play after a patch to see if anything is fixed and or improved or implemented. And for the most part over the last 2 months There has been very little foward progress just some little trinkets and a few bug fixes that have caused more to show up....

[Percival Hasek]

Squid von Torgar, on 16 November 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

Or you could it could actually drive more people away from the game than it brings in.

91% against? given the numbers (over 2400) how could anyone ignore this?

But hey, I admire you misplaced loyalty.

Easy; internet forums are pathetic sources of feedback.

[Dinochrome]

I listened to the entire NGNG interview and it was stated we would have the choice if we wanted to play FFP or 3rd person views in a match, so what is the problem?

V/R Dinochrome

[LaznAzn]

Percival Hasek, on 16 November 2012 - 04:24 PM, said:

Easy; internet forums are pathetic sources of feedback.

Bug reported to PGI, feedback area shouldn't be on the forums.

[anonymous175]

[Squid von Torgar]

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Easy; internet forums are pathetic sources of feedback.

Yep, no argument there. Hey I was the guy that advised PGI to not listen to the QQing over the original economy.

I know that the forums are a minority, but that said this time around we have something different.

People have been voting and posting that never do so. This issue alone has done something that PGI, the Community and everything else has been unable to do.

In a forum renowned for its fractions, one thing has brought us together as a single voice (well 91% anyway). We dont want 3rd person in any incarnation. Thats rare, and PGI would ignore it at there peril.

Dont get me wrong here, I get that PGI and not us (forum dudes) get to call the shots, but this particular bolt from the blue should remain there up with the rest of the blue sky thinking.

[BlackSquirrel]

It's ok to fraction a large community... A small one... Not so much. Would be better to create a series of actual tutorials.

[Prophet of Entropy]

the only reason to add 3rd person is to help new players right? so make 3rd person only available in trial mechs.

fyi i hate the idea of adding 3rd person but new player retention needs fixing.

[OneManWar]

How long does it actually take to realize..... hey..... this is kind of like a tank, my top can rotate independantly from my bottom???