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[Trevnor]

I just noticed something, while cruising around the interwebs. Aleksandr Kerensky, whom we all know was a famous general of the Star League, whom is responsible for the Exodus, which in turn, lead to the rise of the Clans.

He shares a striking similarity to one Alexander Kerensky, whom was a large part of the 1917 Revolution, in the then Russian Provisional Government during WWI.

Simple coincidence? I sense ComStar's hand in these matters...

DISCUSS!

EDIT: Grammar

Edited by Lt Trevnor, 28 April 2012 - 11:41 AM.

[Darion McEvedy]

He is named after the historical figure on purpose... It honestly never occured to me before that this wasn't obvious.

[Trevnor]

Darion McEvedy, on 28 April 2012 - 11:30 AM, said:

He is named after the historical figure on purpose... It honestly never occured to me before that this wasn't obvious.

Yeah I know! I thought the same when I stumbled across it. It does make sense for those at FASA to do this though.

[Mild Monkey]

The real Aleksandr Kerensky was a somewhat obscure figure. Maybe theBT Kerensky was named after him on purpose, but the real Kerensky was not even popular with his own government and was most certainly not a man of war, even though he voted to continue the war with Germany, when it was obvious that the army was outmatched. He is certainly not considered a hero in Russia...

[CoffiNail]

I think a lot of major names are taken from history and such when FASA was first developing the universe.

[Mild Monkey]

Yeah. Sun Tzu Liao being one prominent example

[Trevnor]

Mild Monkey, on 28 April 2012 - 11:47 AM, said:

Yeah. Sun Tzu Liao being one prominent example

Yep, that's another one, for sure

[Haakon Valravn]

One of my history teachers in high school had actually met the historical Alexander Kerensky. She seemed to be of the opinion that he was a good man.

[Kenyon Burguess]

it was a good choice really. both figures failed in their endeavors and ended up in exile. family tradition lol

[RL Nice]

The Kuritas are also descended from a real-life Japanese commander/admiral/something-I'm-too-lazy-to-look-up-on-Wikipedia-right-now from World War II.

And some historical ancestors of House Cameron also existed in real life.

[Haakon Valravn]

Strictly speaking, just about everyone in the future is a direct linear descendent of people living today. And doubly so the further we go into the past. Isn't the statistic that one in every four people in Europe are descended from Genghis Khan? A man who never even set foot on the continent!

[RL Nice]

Haakon Valravn, on 28 April 2012 - 01:38 PM, said:

Strictly speaking, just about everyone in the future is a direct linear descendent of people living today. And doubly so the further we go into the past. Isn't the statistic that one in every four people in Europe are descended from Genghis Khan? A man who never even set foot on the continent!

Actually, every person in the future is a direct descendent of people living today, unless time travel is involved somehow, and I don't think I've come across any BattleTech fluff involving that. FASA, however, used real life people as ancestors of their characters. And I think the Genghis Khan thing is just a myth.

[Solis Obscuri]

BT lifts a of names and references from the 20th century.

[Solis Obscuri]

It's likely that Kerensky was chosen as a parallel between the Exodus and Alexander Kerensky's exile from Russia prior to the Russian Civil War.

[Trevnor]

RL Nice, on 28 April 2012 - 02:37 PM, said:

Actually, every person in the future is a direct descendent of people living today, unless time travel is involved somehow, and I don't think I've come across any BattleTech fluff involving that. FASA, however, used real life people as ancestors of their characters. And I think the Genghis Khan thing is just a myth.

No, I'd say it's not a myth. When you think about it, how often is there a direct line descendant going from one person to the next, without outside influences? Look at your own family tree for an example, you've probably got relatives that you had no idea about, simply because the tree is so large.

[Hayashi]

Lt Trevnor, on 28 April 2012 - 11:23 AM, said:

I just noticed something, while cruising around the interwebs. Aleksandr Kerensky, whom we all know was a famous general of the Star League, whom is responsible for the Exodus, which in turn, lead to the rise of the Clans.

He shares a striking similarity to one Alexander Kerensky, whom was a large part of the 1917 Revolution, in the then Russian Provisional Government during WWI.

Simple coincidence? I sense ComStar's hand in these matters...

DISCUSS!

EDIT: Grammar

[Strum Wealh]

RL Nice, on 28 April 2012 - 02:37 PM, said:

Actually, every person in the future is a direct descendent of people living today, unless time travel is involved somehow, and I don't think I've come across any BattleTech fluff involving that. FASA, however, used real life people as ancestors of their characters. And I think the Genghis Khan thing is just a myth.

Well, there was Living Legends (not to be confused with MWLL):

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On the eve of Operation Exodus, the SLS Manassas, a WarShip with an experimental KF drive, suffers a misjump that keeps the ship in jump limbo and delays its emergence by more than three centuries. For the Star League era vessel, this effectively amounts to a jump ahead in time when she emerges in the Clan Occupation Zone in 3058, right in the middle of an Inner Sphere espionage mission. Complicating matters is the fact the ship's captain had a falling out with Aleksandr Kerensky for incompetence and insubordination, but is erroneously thought to be a war hero in the 31st century.

There you have it: a canon instance of time travel in BT/MW.
Granted, it's not exactly Doctor Who material, but there it is...

[Trevnor]

Hayashi, on 29 April 2012 - 06:48 AM, said:

Quiet you! lol

And nice find there Strum, I didn't know about that sorta thing happened, it's pretty cool.

[Threat Doc]

I never knew this. Thanks for bringing it up Lt Trevnor, and providing the link. Most likely the name was adapted for the fictional BT character because it sounded cool, not for any reason of historical significance; think about how powerful the name, in and of itself, is and you'll get an idea why it was chosen, I suspect. Haakon, all men are good until their brand of fanaticism begins to show; fortunately, when all of us have our time, and we again cool, we are good men again.

[Felicitatem Parco]

The BattleTech lore was started before the fall of the Berlin Wall, and it's based on a future where the cold war never stalled-out like it did in real life. That would help explain the heavy Russian historical themes.

Edited by Prosperity Park, 30 April 2012 - 07:31 PM.