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[Coralld]

As the title says, who would make a great First Lord? I have often wondered about this and curious to see what other people think. There are many characters throughout the BT universe, from the fall of the Star League all the way up to the Dark Age and Jihad from almost every faction that to me appears to have the qualifications of being First Lord and doing at least a decent job. In stead of giving you a list of people to chose from like a poll I am giving the BT/MW community to chose for them selves who they think would do a great job of being First Lord. They don't have to be directly related to any of the Successor States blood line, hell they can even be Clan. How ever you must give at least a snippet of as to why you think they would be a good First Lord, just saying "Because I think they are cool..." Or "Because they are from my favorite faction..." Is not going to fly. You must pick three characters but only one person per faction. Also you can't pick any of those from House Cameron, because, well, sense they are all dead. So put on your thinking caps, crack open your source books, and warm up Sarna because we are going to see who we believe will make a good First Lord. Hopefully with out causing the deaths of trillians of people.

I will start.

Alexander Davion:
By far one of the best politicians and first Prince the Suns ever had. It was stated that he was every bit as cunning and intelligent as the first lord. He brought the Federation in as the last of the Great Houses to the Star League do to the fact that the Federation was rebuilding after a horrible civil war and didn't want to enter from a position of weakness, but when he did he and the Federation ended up being the most hawkish member. He was able to politically out maneuver and turn the tables on Hehiro Kurita and Ursula Liao over territorial disputes and their incessant undermining.

Katrina Steiner:
Katrina was a sickly child but went on to surprise every one to be an amazing mechwarrior and great strategist which every one thought would be impossible and became Hauptmann General and later being promoted to the Strategy and Tactics Division. She eventual lead a coupe against her uncle Alessandro Steiner for his horribly inept military strategies and absurdly high and ill begotten spending whish infurriated the Estates General, the Lyran public, and the high command. Ever sense then she dodged multiple assassination atempts from her uncle. She is mostly credited for temping to resolve the Succession War cycle through a peace proposal which fell mostly on def ears, only the Federation accepted and thus started the road towards the creation of the Federation Commonwealth.

Jessica Marik:
Daughter of the imposter Thamos Marik. At a young age her and her mother servived an assassination attempts that clamed the lives of her two older brothers. She grew up and married Philip Hughes and had five children, from there she spent her time competeing with the other nobles who were cought up in a nasty civil war. She proved to be a compitent and shrewed political and military tacticion who went on to iventually reunite much of the war torn Free Worlds League. But to cement her clame and get support of Duke Fontaine Marik she needed Marik blood. She reluctantly asked her Husband to ask Thaddeus Marik to marrie her. The two are later married and becomes Captain-General of the newly-reborn Free Worlds League.

Sorry for the wall of text.

Edited by Coralld, 04 May 2012 - 08:00 AM.

[Insidious Johnson]

I'd have to go with Moe, Larry, or even Curly.

[Coralld]

OhGilPin, on 03 May 2012 - 01:18 PM, said:

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Insidious Johnson, on 03 May 2012 - 04:16 PM, said:

I'd have to go with Moe, Larry, or even Curly.

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[Ramien]

There's only one person I'd ever trust as First Lord, and that's me. Everyone else is either a double-dealing politician, and/or suffers from the grievous flaw of not being me.

[Insidious Johnson]

Honestly, tell me how my selection of candidates is ill chosen! They've been in as many scrapes as any other and always come out on top! They are not 100% canon, but can be found in the content of any given BT character. They don't always get along but invariably work it all out by the next episode! Also, given the choices this year, I think any one of them could win the election hands down. Rabid anti-stoogite!

[Ramien]

Your selection of candidates are ill chosen because we're never quite sure who we'd be voting for. Larry and Moe are fairly consistent, but Curly? We run the risk of getting a Curly Joe, or even a Shemp.

[Adridos]

Sun-Tzu. Politicians agreed on that and as good mechwarrior as you are, they will always do it their way.

[McScwizzy]

Obama

[Coralld]

Thanks Adridos, at least you kinda adhered to the thread. Which is more then I can say for the rest. If you guys just want to screw around then perhaps I should get one of the mods in here if you continue to be trouble makers. If your not going to be serious then please don't post.

[Insidious Johnson]

Oh, so there are rules to subjective fictional speculation? Then I'll go with Lincoln Osis. He unified the clans and the IS, not necessarily to be on the same team, but what other fictional character you got in your bag of opinions that has come close to that benchmark? By definition every topic in OFF TOPIC... is screwing around. That and Lincoln Osis looks kinda like Curly.

Edited by Insidious Johnson, 04 May 2012 - 12:34 PM.

[GDL Irishwarrior]

Considering the fact that the Inner Sphere is pretty much constantly in a state of war, we need someone who can lead a military force as easily as they can govern - no one or the other. Next, toss out all the crazies (having your nation at complete peace doesn't count when you kill everyone that might stir up trouble...). Finally, take a few character-based guesses to decide who wouldn't favor one Successor State over another (effectively eliminating pretty much anyone from the Inner Sphere, as well as basically all the Clans that didn't get booted out by the "no crazies" rule). Alright, so everyone from the BattleTech universe is out... Real world time!

You know... Teddy Roosevelt actually wouldn't be horrible. Peacemaker, military leader and strategist, an utter willingness to act - all very good qualities for our ideal First Lord. Oh, and he was an utter badass, so would fit right into the universe (I mean, come on - he got shot in the chest while campaigning, and essentially said "Screw the doctor, I'm giving a 90 minute speech!)

Alternatively, I think Abraham Lincoln could do a decent job. He led the US through one of the most politically, economically, militarily, and morally trying times it's ever experienced. Now, granted, he was (at first, at least) not terribly experienced in military and foreign policy areas. However, when his own knowledge failed him, he demonstrated that most important of a leader's qualities - the delegation of responsibility to those who were experts on the subject. Then, he would pay attention to what those experts did, and go off and study the subject so that he could better deal with those issues.

I picked two US presidents for two reasons: 1, I'm American, and therefore biased . and2, there is no clear analogue for the US in the Battletech universe (the Free Worlds League is as close as it gets, and even that is rather iffy in my opinion). So, in whatever bizarre situation transported one of these two to the BTU to be First Lord of the Star League, they would be as unbiased as possible (no culture recognizable as the one they staunchly supported and would die for means a much smaller chance that they will show bias in their decisions.) when they have to make decisions about which of the Successor States is the bad guy at the moment

Edited by GDL Irishwarrior, 04 May 2012 - 10:05 PM.

[PhoenixFire55]

From the people not mentioned here ...

Conrad Toyama (ComStar)
Sarah McEvedy (Clan Wolverine)
Theodore Kurita (Draconis Combine)

[Coralld]

GDL Irishwarrior, on 04 May 2012 - 10:04 PM, said:

Considering the fact that the Inner Sphere is pretty much constantly in a state of war, we need someone who can lead a military force as easily as they can govern - no one or the other. Next, toss out all the crazies (having your nation at complete peace doesn't count when you kill everyone that might stir up trouble...). Finally, take a few character-based guesses to decide who wouldn't favor one Successor State over another (effectively eliminating pretty much anyone from the Inner Sphere, as well as basically all the Clans that didn't get booted out by the "no crazies" rule). Alright, so everyone from the BattleTech universe is out... Real world time!

You know... Teddy Roosevelt actually wouldn't be horrible. Peacemaker, military leader and strategist, an utter willingness to act - all very good qualities for our ideal First Lord. Oh, and he was an utter badass, so would fit right into the universe (I mean, come on - he got shot in the chest while campaigning, and essentially said "Screw the doctor, I'm giving a 90 minute speech!)

Alternatively, I think Abraham Lincoln could do a decent job. He led the US through one of the most politically, economically, militarily, and morally trying times it's ever experienced. Now, granted, he was (at first, at least) not terribly experienced in military and foreign policy areas. However, when his own knowledge failed him, he demonstrated that most important of a leader's qualities - the delegation of responsibility to those who were experts on the subject. Then, he would pay attention to what those experts did, and go off and study the subject so that he could better deal with those issues.

I picked two US presidents for two reasons: 1, I'm American, and therefore biased . and2, there is no clear analogue for the US in the Battletech universe (the Free Worlds League is as close as it gets, and even that is rather iffy in my opinion). So, in whatever bizarre situation transported one of these two to the BTU to be First Lord of the Star League, they would be as unbiased as possible (no culture recognizable as the one they staunchly supported and would die for means a much smaller chance that they will show bias in their decisions.) when they have to make decisions about which of the Successor States is the bad guy at the moment

Ok I can agree with this if we had real world people become First Lord and I am not just saying that because I am an American my self and they are two of our best Presidents... Ok that may be part of the reason.

If we are going to bring people from the real world into who would make a great First Lord. I'm going to make this shorter then my last one. I'd probably have to roll with...

George Washington:
First president of the US, (Kinda symbolic sense we would be basically re-founding the Star League) and a military general.

Ronald Reagan:
Got the US out of a horrible economic disaster and didn't take s**t from any one when it came to foreign affairs (Looking at you Iran) And was by far one of our best US Presidents.

Bill Clinton:
Bill Clinton wasn't that bad as a president later on as he became more center and was able for the most part get both houses to work together. Which is very important sense if your the First Lord you will be dealing with five. Just to have to keep him away from the Magistracy of Canopus or we will never see him again.

[Alexander Fury]

ME!!!!

[Aegis Kleais]

Coralld, on 03 May 2012 - 06:32 PM, said:

Thanks for the tip.


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[Atlai]

Coralld, on 03 May 2012 - 06:32 PM, said:

Thanks for the tip.


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[Talon Thorn]

Me, I would!

[CloudCobra]

Any Kerensky I'm not picky

[NagaoftheWards]

Nicolas Kerensky would fit the bill, but Id probably go for Ulric, Good political clanners are hard to come by, and one who is just as good of a warrior even harder.

From the IS, Id elect Candace Liao of the St. Ives or Duke Morgan Hasek-Davion of the Capellan March.

[Argatson Krieghammer]

The duly elected prince of the Free Rassalhague Republic is the only real hoice. everyone else has been tyran at ome point, excep for the incredibly mediore Free Worlds League. and I don't trust house marik (no offense)