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[TheAquired]

I was playing in my Jenner yesterday and near the beginning of the match (Maybe 1 minute in) I was shot at, most probably by a ac/20 or Gauss and it cored me. I just fell over and died.

I had absolutely no damage prior to that at all. Hadn't fired a shot. I was just moving out of the base. A few seconds later a saw the same person that killed me kill someone else.

Now I wanted to know whether this was a bug or whether it was critical shots in action. I thought that critical shots only happen when you have no more armor on that part of your mech.

And just so i ont leave any info out, I think I have a pretty strong jenner. 148 armor (ferro-fibrous) no XL engine or anything like that. So I honestly have no clue how i died in one shot.

Any opinions or explanations would be welcome!

[PlzDie]

Sounds like a head shot, two Gauss rifles or twin AC 20's will kill you instantly with head shots.

[Thorn Hallis]

How many armor points have you distributed to your Jenner's CT?

[TheAquired]

Hi, it wasnt a head shot. My paperdoll said nothing was even scratched except for my core which as completely gone. my CT has 27 points of armor.

[Raeven]

Did you have ammo in your CT?

Once your external armor is gone, any internal hit can cause a crit, including the hit that strips your external armor and does damage to your internal structure.

One shot, even if it was linked Gauss or AC/20, shouldn't have been enough to destroy your 'Mech unless they hit ammo. Did you have any internal structure left at all? If not, that means you were cored. No armor and no internals.

[TheAquired]

I had no ammo in my core. just the engine, gyro, SRM 4 and Streak SRM2. No i was well and properly cored. See, this makes no sense. I wish I could have gotten a screenshot. I'm going to start running FRAPS every time I play.

When I had to repair, my 'mech only had 9% damage to repair. The smallest repair bill I think anyone could ever get for a destroyed mech.

Edited by TheAquired, 26 November 2012 - 02:23 AM.

[Raeven]

Unless you saw who killed you and followed another player long enough to see what the loadout of the 'Mech was that killed you, it's a bit premature to jump to conclusions.

[TheAquired]

What conclusions?

Oh well, i just wanted to alert the community to a bug/oddity that couldnt make sense of.

[Charos Deathbringer]

Hi!

I had similar happening with Centurion yesterday. Running about minute in match and first contact with enemy. Got one salvo of LRM coming. And was fully CT cored. All CT armor and internals gone. I had over 40 points armor in CT and no ammo in CT. And repair bill was around 10 % too.

Next match i got head shotted with first shot.

Logged out and everything work well after that.

[GanglarToronto]

TheAquired, on 26 November 2012 - 01:53 AM, said:

I was playing in my Jenner yesterday and near the beginning of the match (Maybe 1 minute in) I was shot at, most probably by a ac/20 or Gauss and it cored me. I just fell over and died.

I had absolutely no damage prior to that at all. Hadn't fired a shot. I was just moving out of the base. A few seconds later a saw the same person that killed me kill someone else.

Now I wanted to know whether this was a bug or whether it was critical shots in action. I thought that critical shots only happen when you have no more armor on that part of your mech.

And just so i ont leave any info out, I think I have a pretty strong jenner. 148 armor (ferro-fibrous) no XL engine or anything like that. So I honestly have no clue how i died in one shot.

Any opinions or explanations would be welcome!

I made a thread similar to this a couple days ago. No one would believe me because they had some sort of nerd complex, IDK.

I got killed at the same exact instance as my other two friends out of NOWHERE. It was 1 minute after spawn and we were moving left in the city on rivercity map. No explanation, full health, whatever, just die out of nowhere at the same exact instance.

[Thorn Hallis]

TheAquired, on 26 November 2012 - 02:00 AM, said:

Hi, it wasnt a head shot. My paperdoll said nothing was even scratched except for my core which as completely gone. my CT has 27 points of armor.

2x Gauss = 30 damage.
2x AC20 = 40 damage.

Guess you were hit by either of them.

[TheAquired]

GanglarToronto, on 26 November 2012 - 03:47 AM, said:

I made a thread similar to this a couple days ago. No one would believe me because they had some sort of nerd complex, IDK.

I got killed at the same exact instance as my other two friends out of NOWHERE. It was 1 minute after spawn and we were moving left in the city on rivercity map. No explanation, full health, whatever, just die out of nowhere at the same exact instance.

Funny seeing as I was also left in the river city map. But it did state that an opponent killed me. Sounds fishy though

Thorn Hallis, on 26 November 2012 - 03:55 AM, said:

2x Gauss = 30 damage.
2x AC20 = 40 damage.

Guess you were hit by either of them.

If these damage points are correct then that may just clear a whole lot up. Does my armor points not include my internals? Does anyone know how many points of health the internals of a mech has? I guess it was that + lucky critical shot that just owned me.

[Armorpiercer M82]

happend to me also. I noticed 1 single shot, and then die... with hunchback 338 max armor, 96% health..

[Toldor]

Thorn Hallis, on 26 November 2012 - 03:55 AM, said:

2x Gauss = 30 damage.
2x AC20 = 40 damage.

Guess you were hit by either of them.

3x PPC = 30 damage too and looks like a single shot

[TheAquired]

Armorpiercer M82, on 26 November 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:

happend to me also. I noticed 1 single shot, and then die... with hunchback 338 max armor, 96% health..

I dont think anything could one shot a hunchback without you putting nearly no armor in the CT or cockpit

[LennStar]

Have you considered lags?
I have serious problems with them (mostly in the european evening), especially after the last patch. I often have lags in the seconds then. (which are not always shown in the tab-screen, that one is not overly reliable) That could make you miss an entire atlas walking by.
Yesterday it had this problem. I could hear the LRMs pounding in me (out of nowhere seemingly), but nothing happend, totaly green paper doll - until 2 secs later is was suddenly game over for me. Gauss hits or AC20 hits arent that remarkable if you or another mech near you is firing a cannon... and in 5 secs I could core your hunch with a lucky crit shot in my 2PPC Raven (2x2PPC=40dmg)

[MoverNeRo]

Something similar happend to me. Had yellow armor and no dmg on core on my Catapult. Then one shot came and i was down...core gone. Might be a lucky shot. The player who killed me had 4 kills at the end with total like 300dmg..the match ended in like 3-4 min .

Meh might be a lucky/pro hits...but still never hapend to me before.

[TheAquired]

Yea that sounds odd too. Oh well nothing to worry about too much. It cost hardly anything to repair and you can use another mech till that one becomes unlocked again. Just wanted to make sure it wasnt a bug, Sounds lucky to me thats all.

[Twisted Power]

My cataphrac has a 40+ point alpha. 1 ac 20 and 5 med lasers. If I hit you from behind in any light mech you will be one shot.

Edited by Twisted Power, 26 November 2012 - 07:26 AM.

[Greers]

Could be a bug. I ran a game last weekend where I hit an Atlas-K which appeared undamaged with a single AC20 shot and it died. No clue how that could happen other than a display bug...