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[CoffiNail]

You do know that there is not just the original 500 bloodnamed in the gene pool correct? They included a bunch of genes from non 'bloodnamed' founders. Those who did admirably but were not in a Mech or a Aerospace fighter. Some top scientists, etc. There just are no bloodnames for them. I will try to find the source for this. I do not remember where I read it.

There are more than the original 500 Warrios who took part of Op Klondike in the pool though.

[Gammanoob]

Ashla Mason, on 04 February 2013 - 04:17 PM, said:

Dude, as soon as you try and apply IRL logic to battletech the whole thing falls apart.

Yes, I know, but the only part I was trying to make was that applying the following logic is silly:

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The IS has a strategically disadvantage, that was mitigated by the writers making it possible for them to win.

Simply because if we are to find the IS ultimately winning because it was "written" or "forced" erroneous then we might as well start analyzing how unrealistic it is for the Clanners to have a chance to begin with.

Edited by Gammanoob, 04 February 2013 - 04:47 PM.

[Skadi]

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Bane
^
THAT
That is why i like the Clans.

[Wales Grey]

Skadi, on 04 February 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Bane
^
THAT
That is why i like the Clans.

basically, cheese
it is what i

expected

of clanners

communication is key

[Merrik Starchaser]

Ragor, on 26 November 2012 - 11:12 AM, said:

The Inner Sphere might as borked as hell - but it is the Inner Sphere, with their own rules and way of life.
Nobody asked for the Clans or welcomed them - but they still went on.

No one asked to be born an indentured servant of the Draconis combine either, or captured by slavers. Your ideals are in the right place but few of the IS powers are really much better than the clans, especially the ones who allowed freebirth warriors.

[Natasha Kerensky]

For people who say our caste system is bad, I bring you this:

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"Five, Nicholas proclaimed, was the foundation
Upon which our true society was to be built.
Laborers to till the land, to do the tasks:
They shall have our undying gratitude,
For they are the muscle behind us all.
Merchants to buy and sell with fairness:
They shall have our commerce and respect,
For they are the bones upon which we are built.
Technicians to build and fix the machines:
They shall have our admiration,
For they are the fingers with which we grasp life.
Scientists to create and discover:
They shall have our awe and our attention,
For they are the mind of our society.
And above all, the Warriors who protect:
They shall have our cooperation and worship,
For they are the blood and soul of us all."

-The Remembrance

We respect and honor all people in our castes. Everyone has a duty to their Clan and a place in the world. We fight with honor and to test our skills. That is why I like the Clans.

Edited by Natasha Kerensky, 05 February 2013 - 07:40 AM.

[Thorn Hallis]

Natasha Kerensky, on 05 February 2013 - 07:37 AM, said:

We respect and honor all people in our castes. Everyone has a duty to their Clan and a place in the world. We fight with honor and to test our skills. That is why I like the Clans.

So the civilian castes of the Jags and the Widowmakers rebelled out of fun, hu?

[Natasha Kerensky]

Thorn Hallis, on 05 February 2013 - 07:43 AM, said:

So the civilian castes of the Jags and the Widowmakers rebelled out of fun, hu?

I wouldn't be talking Liao. You oppress your own people. No one likes you guys.

[Stormwolf]

Thorn Hallis, on 05 February 2013 - 07:43 AM, said:

So the civilian castes of the Jags and the Widowmakers rebelled out of fun, hu?

There was actually quite a bit of debate about this in the Grand Council back then, so it didn't sit well with the other Clans.

[fil5000]

Natasha Kerensky, on 05 February 2013 - 07:47 AM, said:

I wouldn't be talking Liao. You oppress your own people. No one likes you guys.

No one pretends to either though. I mean, we basically picked Liao to conform to the stereotype of goons being the bad guys.

[Ashla Mason]

fil5000, on 05 February 2013 - 09:39 AM, said:

No one pretends to either though. I mean, we basically picked Liao to conform to the stereotype of goons being the bad guys.

I always figured it was because they were the most impotent of the houses at this time period and you were trying to add insult to injury when you defeated your opponents.

[fil5000]

Ashla Mason, on 05 February 2013 - 10:16 AM, said:

I always figured it was because they were the most impotent of the houses at this time period and you were trying to add insult to injury when you defeated your opponents.

Well, that's a bonus.

[Skadi]

Wales Grey, on 04 February 2013 - 09:38 PM, said:

basically, cheese
it is what i

expected

of clanners

communication is key

But but i like cheese,
it goes good with whine

[Thorn Hallis]

fil5000, on 05 February 2013 - 09:39 AM, said:

No one pretends to either though. I mean, we basically picked Liao to conform to the stereotype of goons being the bad guys.

Actually I picked them for black uniforms with Death's Head insignia.

And yes, I'm from Germany.

[Xeno Phalcon]

I always liked them for much the same reasons I liked the draconis combine: great emphasis on "honor" (at least at this stage in the timeline of things) and their mech styles always appealed to me, but if I had to choose between the clans or DMCS I'd have to side with the dragon, mostly because the clans shun physical combat in mechs and damnit I want to decrapitate someone with a ten ton sword!

[Wales Grey]

Thorn Hallis, on 05 February 2013 - 04:03 PM, said:

Actually I picked them for black uniforms with Death's Head insignia.

And yes, I'm from Germany.

Just quoting this here

Edited by Wales Grey, 05 February 2013 - 04:49 PM.

[Skylarr]

Natasha Kerensky, on 05 February 2013 - 07:47 AM, said:

I wouldn't be talking Liao. You oppress your own people. No one likes you guys.

I would say the Capellan's treat their citizens better than most Clanners treat the Labor Caste.

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Capellan Confederation

[Gaan Cathal]

Skylarr, on 05 February 2013 - 05:17 PM, said:

I would say the Capellan's treat their citizens better than most Clanners treat the Labor Caste.

Not that I really understand most of the venom thrown around here (seriously, the Clans/IS did not kill your family), but based on that link you used there, you're saying that the Capellans treat their upper caste better than the Clans treat their lower caste. That seems accurate, but not hugely significant to me.

[fil5000]

Thorn Hallis, on 05 February 2013 - 04:03 PM, said:

Actually I picked them for black uniforms with Death's Head insignia.

And yes, I'm from Germany.

Edited by fil5000, 05 February 2013 - 10:29 PM.

[Ken Fury]

Thorn Hallis, on 05 February 2013 - 04:03 PM, said:

Actually I picked them for black uniforms with Death's Head insignia.

And yes, I'm from Germany.

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