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#1 Karaya1

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 04:03 AM

Hey, I'm wondering, what gameplay of this game will be about? Will it be only team based? Or will I be able to play JUST for myself?

Really VERY important question.

Let me explain it how horribly can team game go, on the example of World of Tanks. There is no other way of playing WoT, other than random team game. You get assigned to random stupid players. And your whole game experience is ruined by the fact that your random team is bunch of retarded monkeys, will lost all the time, and all you hear is "you was on the team, its your loss too"...

I would not play MWO if it would have the same pattern, that I'm randomly assigned to some retards which then lose the game for me.

Will there be an option in MWO how to play just for yourself, without being completely dependand on your team performance?

Thx

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 04:08 AM

View PostKaraya1, on 07 May 2012 - 04:03 AM, said:

Hey, I'm wondering, what gameplay of this game will be about? Will it be only team based? Or will I be able to play JUST for myself?

Really VERY important question.

Let me explain it how horribly can team game go, on the example of World of Tanks. There is no other way of playing WoT, other than random team game. You get assigned to random stupid players. And your whole game experience is ruined by the fact that your random team is bunch of retarded monkeys, will lost all the time, and all you hear is "you was on the team, its your loss too"...

I would not play MWO if it would have the same pattern, that I'm randomly assigned to some retards which then lose the game for me.

Will there be an option in MWO how to play just for yourself, without being completely dependand on your team performance?

Thx


yeah its team based but you can get in lance(party) with friends and kick *** together and its more fun...

#3 Black Mamba

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 04:11 AM

And this Lance is not restricted to 2 players like in this certain tank game you speak of nor does it make you have to spend money to gain an additional 1 extra player. You get 4 from the beginning at no extra cost.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 04:13 AM

And its boring to play alone anyway :)

Edited by Aelos03, 07 May 2012 - 04:14 AM.


#5 Karaya1

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 04:15 AM

Oh no, so after 12 years or so of waiting for new mechwarrior game, the game is team based only:( Well that ruins everything for me, and I was looking for to spent a lot of money here.

Aelos03, have you played WoT? If so, you would know that it does not work that way, if lance is an remake of platoon from WoT, then its useless. 3 players in a lance cant compensate for 12 incompetent monkeys.

Besides, I'm 25, how much of my friends you think plays mechwarrior? They very few that knew what it is dont.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 04:17 AM

No you misunderstood. Mechwarrior will have 3 lances, each lance consisting of 4 players. However, yes its possible that all 3 lances can be lonewolves playing by themselves.

You're 25? Well I'm 22, and i have 4+ of my friends lined up to play this game, I'm sure you can find some.

Edited by Black Mamba, 07 May 2012 - 04:20 AM.


#7 Karaya1

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 04:18 AM

I don't like to play alone, I enjoy playing against people. But not together with random strangers with brain tumors (sorry, but that is average WoT player).

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 04:18 AM

Yep, it sounds like league of legends style lobby to me. You can take a pre-made lance, maybe a company even before joining the que for a game. so if you had a lance of friends ready, it would then pair you up with 8 random players (or maybe 2 other pre-made lances)

This is definitely a game where you'd want friends to play with. Unless they have the player rating system talked about a few months ago. (Where you can rate players on their team-play/attitude/reliability). That would help match players with people who arn't trolls, and let the trolls play among themselves.

But to answer your question, this is not a 1v1 game. There is teamplay here, so come prepared or hope for FFA (solaris I'm looking at you!) gamemodes..

#9 Karaya1

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 04:21 AM

Oh ok, that sounds little better, but still it gives me bad feeling in stomach thinking my entire gaming experience will be in hand of other people again.

I wish this game the commercial success of WoT, but I hope it will be completely different in every aspect apart from that one. WoT is a terrible game...

So thx

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 04:23 AM

View PostKaraya1, on 07 May 2012 - 04:15 AM, said:

Oh no, so after 12 years or so of waiting for new mechwarrior game, the game is team based only:( Well that ruins everything for me, and I was looking for to spent a lot of money here.

Aelos03, have you played WoT? If so, you would know that it does not work that way, if lance is an remake of platoon from WoT, then its useless. 3 players in a lance cant compensate for 12 incompetent monkeys.

Besides, I'm 25, how much of my friends you think plays mechwarrior? They very few that knew what it is dont.


i played wot and stoped after few days becuase it fails as a game. 1 good lance can win battle of course not alone don't forget mwo will be game of skill. Well you don't need to play with your real life friends moment i got on this forum i went to hiring hall and i found group that will play with me, wth add me i will play with you :)

Edited by Aelos03, 07 May 2012 - 04:23 AM.


#11 Karaya1

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 04:27 AM

View PostAelos03, on 07 May 2012 - 04:23 AM, said:


i played wot and stoped after few days becuase it fails as a game. 1 good lance can win battle of course not alone don't forget mwo will be game of skill. Well you don't need to play with your real life friends moment i got on this forum i went to hiring hall and i found group that will play with me, wth add me i will play with you :)


Thx that is very nice of you. Well I'm from europe so it might be a little harder for me to find a lance, but guess I will have to try... And yes I hope it will be game of skill, I'm buying new joystick just because of it.

#12 Verminaard

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 04:28 AM

It's looking very positive, don't worry. It's what, 80,000 registered players at the moment (someone get the real number plz)? all of which are dedicated to having a great time without nonsense.The members have been actively giving the developers solutions for these exact issues, we're all worried about the same things.

Games should be 12v12.
Options (appear) to be: solo que, lance (4man), or company (12man). Maybe others? like demi-lance (2mans)
*Guilds will be in game (merc corps), allowing you to find friends and play with them regularly.


I wouldn't freak out and panic just yet, these devs are remarkably talkative, and communicate with us players a lot :)
I'd go as far to say, the most communicative devs in any forum I've seen to date! They also reassure us regularly and give us a lot of feedback on topics we're worried about.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 04:30 AM

View PostKaraya1, on 07 May 2012 - 04:27 AM, said:


Thx that is very nice of you. Well I'm from europe so it might be a little harder for me to find a lance, but guess I will have to try... And yes I hope it will be game of skill, I'm buying new joystick just because of it.


well there are lots of european players (like me) and there are lots of us so you will find friends fast.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 04:33 AM

View PostVerminaard, on 07 May 2012 - 04:28 AM, said:

It's looking very positive, don't worry. It's what, 80,000 registered players at the moment (someone get the real number plz)? all of which are dedicated to having a great time without nonsense.The members have been actively giving the developers solutions for these exact issues, we're all worried about the same things.

Games should be 12v12.
Options (appear) to be: solo que, lance (4man), or company (12man). Maybe others? like demi-lance (2mans)
*Guilds will be in game (merc corps), allowing you to find friends and play with them regularly.


I wouldn't freak out and panic just yet, these devs are remarkably talkative, and communicate with us players a lot :)
I'd go as far to say, the most communicative devs in any forum I've seen to date! They also reassure us regularly and give us a lot of feedback on topics we're worried about.


That sounds positive indeed. Thanks for info

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 04:52 AM

View PostKaraya1, on 07 May 2012 - 04:15 AM, said:

Besides, I'm 25, how much of my friends you think plays mechwarrior? They very few that knew what it is dont.



Should I tell him?

There are many people here who already have children playing with their long-time friends. Even people with grandchildren. You are considered young for these forums. :)

And I don't kno how exactly is it going to be handled, but I think most monkeys with brain tumors and whatver are going to play Hawken, anyway. :o

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 05:04 AM

But your wrong about world of tanks. Theres tank companies where you choose who is on your team, platoons to play with a friend in the random battles, and you can do 1v1 in team training.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 05:20 AM

View PostRataz, on 07 May 2012 - 05:04 AM, said:

But your wrong about world of tanks. Theres tank companies where you choose who is on your team, platoons to play with a friend in the random battles, and you can do 1v1 in team training.


ye with ONE friend and pay for premium to play with TWO friend :)

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 05:24 AM

View PostKaraya1, on 07 May 2012 - 04:03 AM, said:

Hey, I'm wondering, what gameplay of this game will be about? Will it be only team based? Or will I be able to play JUST for myself?

Really VERY important question.

Let me explain it how horribly can team game go, on the example of World of Tanks. There is no other way of playing WoT, other than random team game. You get assigned to random stupid players. And your whole game experience is ruined by the fact that your random team is bunch of retarded monkeys, will lost all the time, and all you hear is "you was on the team, its your loss too"...

I would not play MWO if it would have the same pattern, that I'm randomly assigned to some retards which then lose the game for me.

Will there be an option in MWO how to play just for yourself, without being completely dependand on your team performance?

Thx


LoL...

In any multi-player team-based game you are depending from your team. The MWO is no difference in that matter...
Even if you play in a Lance, you are depending 8 other player, who can be "retarded", as you say.

Side note: who is "retarded" or not is depending from a point of view. But calling your mates "******" is insult, and i don't really believe that a good way to make friends. I seen veteran players doing dumb things in WoT, heck, even i'm do several times dumb things, and die early. And i believe even you make sometimes poor tactical choice, so in those battles even you can be called "******". So i think the first thing you need to be change is your attitude about your mates...

View PostRataz, on 07 May 2012 - 05:04 AM, said:

But your wrong about world of tanks. Theres tank companies where you choose who is on your team, platoons to play with a friend in the random battles, and you can do 1v1 in team training.


Even in platoonn, you depending from 12 other player.

Edited by Cifu, 07 May 2012 - 05:29 AM.


#19 Karaya1

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 07:18 AM

View PostAdridos, on 07 May 2012 - 04:52 AM, said:


Should I tell him?

There are many people here who already have children playing with their long-time friends. Even people with grandchildren. You are considered young for these forums. :)

And I don't kno how exactly is it going to be handled, but I think most monkeys with brain tumors and whatver are going to play Hawken, anyway. :o


I always saw that in MW community, since I always kept checking mekktek forums for news etc. Yes its nice to be the young kid here:)

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 07:33 AM

View PostCifu, on 07 May 2012 - 05:24 AM, said:


LoL...

In any multi-player team-based game you are depending from your team. The MWO is no difference in that matter...
Even if you play in a Lance, you are depending 8 other player, who can be "retarded", as you say.

Side note: who is "retarded" or not is depending from a point of view. But calling your mates "******" is insult, and i don't really believe that a good way to make friends. I seen veteran players doing dumb things in WoT, heck, even i'm do several times dumb things, and die early. And i believe even you make sometimes poor tactical choice, so in those battles even you can be called "******". So i think the first thing you need to be change is your attitude about your mates...


Yes, you said it in the first sentence, team-based. Dont like that concept. And dont get me wrong, I like team play, but in a different manner. I like if I have the option to play for a team of just for myself. If the only option to play a game are random teams of random players, it's very frustrating for me.

Also, don't count on that if MW has older community, so that it all will be better. It wont. If there will be random teams, it will be just like WoT...





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