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#1 SpiralRazor

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 05:59 PM

equipment list just makes me realize just HOW far away this game is to being even remotely near a game that was released in 2002~!


Arrow 4 with Cluster Warheads?

RAC/2s and 5s?

Reflective and Reactive armors..

X-pulses...


Not to mention all the equipment like MASC, IFF Jammers, targeting computers etc and all the rest of the mechs/maps.


And thats not even taking into account the only real draw of a Mechwarrior title, the territorial warfare and merc contract system that was talked about.

So much missing. Current build is a mid Alpha stage.

Game really should have cooked for another year before opening to the public. Should have just kickstarted this whole project so you didnt have to use a publisher.

#2 Vassago Rain

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 06:00 PM

View PostSpiralRazor, on 28 November 2012 - 05:59 PM, said:

equipment list just makes me realize just HOW far away this game is to being even remotely near a game that was released in 2002~!


Arrow 4 with Cluster Warheads?

RAC/2s and 5s?

Reflective and Reactive armors..

X-pulses...


Not to mention all the equipment like MASC, IFF Jammers, targeting computers etc and all the rest of the mechs/maps.


And thats not even taking into account the only real draw of a Mechwarrior title, the territorial warfare and merc contract system that was talked about.

So much missing. Current build is a mid Alpha stage.

Game really should have cooked for another year before opening to the public. Should have just kickstarted this whole project so you didnt have to use a publisher.


Was kickstarter even invented when they rolled MWO out?

#3 Clay Pigeon

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 06:02 PM

MW4: mercenaries was in the 3060s, and had tech available in the 3060s. It is currently November 3049 in MWO.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 06:02 PM

View PostSpiralRazor, on 28 November 2012 - 05:59 PM, said:

equipment list just makes me realize just HOW far away this game is to being even remotely near a game that was released in 2002~!


Arrow 4 with Cluster Warheads?

RAC/2s and 5s?

Reflective and Reactive armors..

X-pulses...


Not to mention all the equipment like MASC, IFF Jammers, targeting computers etc and all the rest of the mechs/maps.


And thats not even taking into account the only real draw of a Mechwarrior title, the territorial warfare and merc contract system that was talked about.

So much missing. Current build is a mid Alpha stage.

Game really should have cooked for another year before opening to the public. Should have just kickstarted this whole project so you didnt have to use a publisher.


Can we get a lore nut in here to tell us if any of this tech was available in 3049?

#5 Nonsense

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 06:03 PM

Just stop with these threads please. The game is in beta. It will eventually have these things. Don't forget previous MW titles didn't worry as much about balance since they were primarily single player games on release. MWO is fun. Play it or play something else. We can do without your post.

If you're reading this and you're in the silent majority that hates the forums because they're full of this kind of crap, post and let this person know you don't want to hear his BS.

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 06:06 PM

View PostNonsense, on 28 November 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:

Just stop with these threads please. The game is in beta. It will eventually have these things. Don't forget previous MW titles didn't worry as much about balance since they were primarily single player games on release. MWO is fun. Play it or play something else. We can do without your post.

If you're reading this and you're in the silent majority that hates the forums because they're full of this kind of crap, post and let this person know you don't want to hear his BS.


You could have just posted your forum name as a response to this post and it would have worked.

#7 Green Mamba

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 06:07 PM

I think MekTek added a lot of content Post MW4 Mercenaries though,this counts the Inner Sphere and Clan Meckpacks also.The Game tooks a couple years to get it in ,but had a lot of Content,Game modes and Plenty Of MAPs.They may have had over a 100 or more maps, been awhile since I have played

Edited by Green Mamba, 28 November 2012 - 06:08 PM.


#8 Quad Ace

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 06:07 PM

Thank you nonsense.

#9 CeeKay Boques

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 06:10 PM

You are quoting the Black Knight Expansion or... Mercenaries actually the expansion AFTER that, not the original MW4 Vengence, so this is the second edition you are looking at. Mercenaries is the 4th x-pac for MW4.

MechWarrior 4 was funded by effing Microsoft. They may have had some money to throw at the project.

Stop it, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Edited by Technoviking, 28 November 2012 - 06:13 PM.


#10 Stone Wall

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 06:11 PM

View PostClay Pigeon, on 28 November 2012 - 06:02 PM, said:

MW4: mercenaries was in the 3060s, and had tech available in the 3060s. It is currently November 3049 in MWO.


+10000000 MC

#11 80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 06:12 PM

View PostAerokii, on 28 November 2012 - 06:02 PM, said:


Can we get a lore nut in here to tell us if any of this tech was available in 3049?


Okidokie

View PostSpiralRazor, on 28 November 2012 - 05:59 PM, said:


Arrow 4 with Cluster Warheads?
We could... I suppose. But Arrow IV's in MW4 behaved more like thunderbolt missiles. Which become available in Solaris arenas in 3053, so not yet. Arrow IV artillery is available in 3044 but requires TAG for targeting.

RAC/2s and 5s?
3062 tech, so not even close.

Reflective and Reactive armors..
Reactive did something different in canon than in MW4 reduced damage from missiles rather than ballistics, and to both not yet. DC; 3063 for Reactive. Lyran's; 3058 for Laser Reflective.

X-pulses...
3055 tech, mastered by 3078, but still damn cool.

Not to mention all the equipment like MASC, IFF Jammers, targeting computers etc and all the rest of the mechs/maps.
MASC was never introduced to MW4, mektek pak4 was planning to have it but its still not open to the public. Same with C3/targeting computers, not part of MW4. IFF jammers were, but they're kinda more of an ECM feature than a standalone piece of equipment.


#12 Criewry

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 06:14 PM

None of those things were available in 3049, the only one that is even remotely available is cluster warheads but only to the Capellan's. If I remember correctly RAC's were early 3060, Xpulses were 3057. Lyran's got reflective in late 3050, and ghost bear stole reactive from the dragon sometime after that.

The other things mentioned such as MASC (Only canonically on the flea) IFF jammers, Targeting computers are coming, be patient, a month ago we didn't even have BAP, now it along with similar items are in and being balanced.

#13 Locan Ravok

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 06:15 PM

This is like saing that a WW2 game is crap because it did not have smart bombs and stealth fighters.

#14 80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 06:17 PM

View PostLocan Ravok, on 28 November 2012 - 06:15 PM, said:

This is like saing that a WW2 game is crap because it did not have smart bombs and stealth fighters.


Wait, what do you mean I can't fight the ****'s in my Apache attack helicopter?

Worst WWII game ever, they didn't even include my M16 for Christ sake!

Edited by mwhighlander, 28 November 2012 - 06:18 PM.


#15 J4ckInthebox

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 06:18 PM

So we will never see all these cool things in the game.

Edited by J4ckInthebox, 28 November 2012 - 06:18 PM.


#16 Green Mamba

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 06:18 PM

Maybe they should have set it for Dark Age,Clan Tech would Allready be here as well as all the weapons

#17 Stone Wall

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 06:20 PM

I can't wait to pilot a Mad Cat.

#18 80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 06:20 PM

View PostGreen Mamba, on 28 November 2012 - 06:18 PM, said:

Maybe they should have set it for Dark Age,Clan Tech would Allready be here as well as all the weapons


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Posted 28 November 2012 - 06:21 PM

View PostJ4ckInthebox, on 28 November 2012 - 06:18 PM, said:

So we will never see all these cool things in the game.

Giant, stompy robots with guns = cool things.

#20 J4ckInthebox

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 06:23 PM

yes, but Giant, stompy robots with rotary ac/2's and relfective armor = even cooler things.

Edited by J4ckInthebox, 28 November 2012 - 06:23 PM.






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