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[ShadowThunder77]

1) whats the best weapon loadout now that ECMs are in play??

2) which mech should i get if i want one with ECM??

BTW should i keep my hunchback or sell it for a mech than can use ECM??

[TruePoindexter]

ShadowThunder77, on 06 December 2012 - 12:27 PM, said:

1) whats the best weapon loadout now that ECMs are in play??

2) which mech should i get if i want one with ECM??

BTW should i keep my hunchback or sell it for a mech than can use ECM??

There was no overall best weapon load out before or after ECM. It all depends on the situation.

Each ECM mech has its strengths and weaknesses.We can go into the details if you like.

Keep your 4SP - it'll work just fine.

[XvDraxvX]

4SP i am currently working on a build right now for that.

I am currently looking at using the biggest Standard Engine i can fit in it, then i Maxed out the armor, and added double heat-sinks.

Missile hard points, i went with Streaks. If your a good shot then i would do just Regular SRM's i still may swap to SRM's

Energy 2 Medium Lasers in each arm.

Then fill out with ammo, case, AMS, and if you can fit it Endo Steel and Ferro Fib. Heck if you do reg SRM's you may even want to do Artemis.

This should give you a good well rounded brawler. You could also look at pulling out the medium Lasers and going Large Lasers if you want some Range.

[ShadowThunder77]

will TAG work against ECM??

[TruePoindexter]

ShadowThunder77, on 06 December 2012 - 12:36 PM, said:

will TAG work against ECM??

TAG will allow you to target people covered with ECM. source:
http://mwomercs.com/...dian-ecm-suite/

[BatWing]

XvDraxvX, on 06 December 2012 - 12:32 PM, said:

4SP i am currently working on a build right now for that.

I am currently looking at using the biggest Standard Engine i can fit in it, then i Maxed out the armor, and added double heat-sinks.

Missile hard points, i went with Streaks. If your a good shot then i would do just Regular SRM's i still may swap to SRM's

Energy 2 Medium Lasers in each arm.

Then fill out with ammo, case, AMS, and if you can fit it Endo Steel and Ferro Fib. Heck if you do reg SRM's you may even want to do Artemis.

This should give you a good well rounded brawler. You could also look at pulling out the medium Lasers and going Large Lasers if you want some Range.

LOLOL !!!

Com'on ! Actually this thread is almost one of the best thread around at least is an honest question in the hope to get some suggestion

I respect this thread, not being another crying whining discussion about ECM and DHS or any other OP stuff cry babies have to discuss on this useless forum

So, staying on topic, the 4SP is a very good config. You need ES structure and possibly DHS. Then keep the standard weaponry.
4ML and 2 SRM6 possibly Artemis are going to be very good. Swap to SRM4s if you have heat issues.

Swap the small laser for a TAG. Keep the standar engine, speed nowaday is no more the most important asset. possibly you will move slow with your Atlas with ECM so nonsense going 80+ KPH. XL would make you durability way lower anyway.

I managed to bring home destroyed HBKs at 10 - 15% left ... not many Mechs can do that

Get an ECM mech if you feel you want to really learn how to use it, otherwise leave that job to someone else in the team...

Oh i forgot.. are you playing in a team or you play ALONE ?

[ShadowThunder77]

im a loner but i try to play decently with a team mindset. Should i keep or replace the LRM10s??

BTW i already replaced the small lazer at the top of the mech with TAG

Edited by ShadowThunder77, 06 December 2012 - 12:52 PM.

[Elizander]

Hunchback 4SP pretty much ignores ECM if you didn't go SSRM2.

245 engine, 5 medium lasers, DHS, Endo, 2 SRM6 without Artemis then go out and rock them hard.

[Felicitatem Parco]

I'm shunting this thread over to the BattleMech Guides section of the fourms.
Keep on Hunchin'!

[ShadowThunder77]

looks like i can keep enjoying my Hunchback HBK-4SP.

ty for the advice and info everyone.

[PhigNewtenz]

I like:

255XL
2 x ASRM6
2 x SRM Ammo
1 x Tag (If you're good at coordinating with LRM boats, drop for ML if not)
4 x Medium Lasers
1 x AMS
1 x AMS Ammo
16 x DHS

It leaves a bunch of slots empty, so it could probably be improved. That said, it's always worked well for me.

[Demoned]

my build

endo steel
double heat sinks x7
4 medium lasers, 2 in both arms,
and 2 srm6s 2 ton of ammo
and AMS with 1x ton

and 240 standard engine

this build is a brute.

works well alone and as part of a lance team.

more videos of the 4SP in play, in my channel.

[Flying Fish]

I hated the range limits of the stock 4sp so i went for less of a brawler, more of a rounded loadout.

2x med laser
2x er large laser
2x ssrm2
1 ton ssrm ammo
1x ams
1 ton ams ammo
1x TAG
15 heat sinks
std 200 engine
DHS and endo steel upgrades

This build has 38 firepower, 336 armor, 1.02 heat efficiency, and fills up every crit and weapons slot perfectly. naturally, with ECM the ssrms are useless without a TAG, but if i'm feeling lucky sometimes ill switch it out and throw another med laser on, bringing it to 43 firepower and 0.96 heat efficiency. the er large lasers give it a nice ranged punch, which keeps you alive much longer than the brawler loadout will. i was also experimenting with an er ppc, while keeping the srm6s in, and that build was pretty good too. i was actually trying to get 2 er ppcs in the arms when i got to this build- it seems like thats an impossibility without an xl engine, and there's no way im putting an xl in a hunchback- thats just asking to get cored

[Eclipse186]

Elizander, on 06 December 2012 - 12:54 PM, said:

Hunchback 4SP pretty much ignores ECM if you didn't go SSRM2.

245 engine, 5 medium lasers, DHS, Endo, 2 SRM6 without Artemis then go out and rock them hard.

This for me has been my exact build but I dropped the fifth MLA in the head for more armor and heat efficiency.

With speed tweak, full throttle gets you 85.5 km/h. It's my favorite mech, I average around 450 dmg per game and usually at least 2 kills.

I love Pomeranians!They are so cute!

*2nd EDIT* My girlfriend likes poms. Also, don't leave your screen up while throwing darts with your girlfriend.*

Edited by Eclipse186, 06 December 2012 - 05:11 PM.

[Krazy Kat]

Elizander, on 06 December 2012 - 12:54 PM, said:

Hunchback 4SP pretty much ignores ECM if you didn't go SSRM2.

245 engine, 5 medium lasers, DHS, Endo, 2 SRM6 without Artemis then go out and rock them hard.

My build exactly and loving it. Although I have tried trading the head laser for a flamer or one more heat sink. The only problem is the spread on the SRM6. Artemis is not worth it for the 4 tons you lose.

[Stingz]

Krazy Kat, on 06 December 2012 - 06:28 PM, said:

My build exactly and loving it. Although I have tried trading the head laser for a flamer or one more heat sink. The only problem is the spread on the SRM6. Artemis is not worth it for the 4 tons you lose.

ART is one ton per launcher equipped(only standard LRM/SRMs though), only 2 tons lost.

Edited by Stingz, 06 December 2012 - 07:04 PM.

[Krazy Kat]

Stingz, on 06 December 2012 - 06:42 PM, said:

ART is one ton per launcher equipped, only standard LRM/SRMs though, only 2 tons lost.

But the Artemis itself is 2 tons, isn't it? Could someone confirm?

[Mobias T Bishop]

My primary mech is the hunch back 4sp or as i call it " srm-back". for the most part my config is not that dissimilar from what others have said. So with that said i wont go down a lengthy break down of what i have in my mech save this: I run a 260 standard engine for one reason, with speed tweak it puts me at 90.6 kph, now before you all start going on about how worthless this is hear me out. With this speed i am able to close quickly and make better use of cover. but more importantly i am able to face punch people with my double srm 6's. By this i mean SRM's spread out as they travel, but if you shoot someone point blank with them they dont spread out and damn near every missile hits, with Artemis they ALL hit, even under enemy ecm i still get damn near full hit. My company calls me a " chest burster" because i run up behind enemy mechs and hull them and come running out of their chests. its a valid tactic, one i would be remiss if i didn't share with you all on THIS thread.

[Stingz]

Krazy Kat, on 06 December 2012 - 07:00 PM, said:

But the Artemis itself is 2 tons, isn't it? Could someone confirm?

Artemis: The Artemis IV FCS must be mounted in the same location as the launcher it controls, taking up space and weight on a BattleMech like other components. - Sarna.net

It's a add-on to standard launchers, like a laser sight for each.

Edited by Stingz, 06 December 2012 - 07:08 PM.