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[Aloric]

Thank you PGI for removing the 8 man groups in favor of PUGs. Now everyone gets to suffer from the farmers who seem to think C-Bills = win. You are on the verge of losing yet another player who was willing to spend real money on a game he wanted to support. For now I'm quiting this game and if 8 man isn't back in the next patch then I'm uninstalling and not looking back. I don't mind losing to people who actually play but I'm sick and tired of losing matches because almost every game has at least 1 afker/farmer and more often 2 or more.

I want to make it clear that I can live with the bugs and network problems since the game is considered in beta, but allowing other players to ruin my experience because I'm forced to allow them to drop with me is something I will no longer tolerate.

Edited by Aloric, 28 November 2012 - 11:30 AM.

[Redshift2k5]

It will be back as soon as it's ready. 8-man teams vs unorganized goobers was never healthy for the game.

[Dax Frey]

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Matchmaking Phase 2
Target Date: December 4th - 90%
Status: Working on FE UI.
Notes: NA

[Pendraco]

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Phase 2:

Players will be able to convert their 4-player group to an 8-player group similarly to how World of Warcraft’s group to raid conversion works. With a click of a button, a group leader can convert a 4-player group to 8-players and invite 4 more players to the group. There is a limitation to this however. If the group leader decides to convert to an 8-player group, they MUST have 8 players in order to launch. (i.e. you cannot launch a game with 5,6 or 7 players). In addition to that, your 8-player group will be matched to another 8-player group ONLY. This does reduce the change of finding a match quickly but at the same time 8-players teams will finally be matched to other 8-player teams exclusively.

At some future date we will also want to include the ability to challenge a specific 8-player team to a match in a competitive/eSport manner. But as stated, this will be coming at a later date.

Just take a break and come back when we hit phase 2, I see no reason to get upset and start making childish demands.

[Suko]

Aloric, on 28 November 2012 - 11:28 AM, said:

OP

So, you're OK with AFKer's and droppers so long as you get to roll out with 8 bros to stomp them down? Look, I'm also getting pissed at the frequency of AFK players, but I don't think the 4 man teams has jack to do about it. My W/L ratio has absolutely TANKED in the last two weeks because in 3/5 of my matches, my team has 1 or 2 mechs just chillin' at base. Even though our lance is pretty capable, you just can't win against some odds.


I understand that bringing in the 8v8 matchmaking will solve this problem for you and the minority that do play full 8 man teams, but for the vast majority of players the AFK problem will persist.

I'm as peeved as you are about that, though. PGI needs to put in some safeguards to keep AFK players to an absolute minimum. There are so many ways they can do this that it's not even worth mentioning any. Right now AFK and D/C players are #1 on my list of "what I want to see fixed".

[Penance]

F2P =/= fun to play

[Spleen5459]

With black screen, yellow screen and dump to desktop still not addressed, afk most likely means you are a victim of continuing bug issues. I love my camo. Now i can CTD in a purple mech

[Matte Black]

OP Everyone has an opinion, I do not agree with yours.

Edited by Matte Black, 28 November 2012 - 11:58 AM.

[Taryys]

Ragequit less, play more.
8 man teams are coming. Take a break for a few weeks.

[Aloric]

PUGers have the option to join one of the many open TS servers. If you insist on PUGing then you take the chance of dropping with the farmers. My complaint is that the 4 man teams force people to drop with these players whether they like it or not.

As far as setting my own deadline. Theirs was promised two patches ago. If there had never been 8 man I might be a little more patient but they chose the PUGs over organized players with a promise that we would have a short amount of time dealing with it. You can be sure I'll meet my deadline.

[anonymous175]

nyagh

[Elandyll]

There is no reason for PGI not to allow PUGs the choice to not drop vs pre-mades, pure and simple.

Pre-mades should have the freedom to play 8x8 pre mades, and we should have the choice not to have to deal with pre-mades.

Simple, no?

[Doubtful Danary]

Aloric, on 28 November 2012 - 01:56 PM, said:

PUGers have the option to join one of the many open TS servers. If you insist on PUGing then you take the chance of dropping with the farmers. My complaint is that the 4 man teams force people to drop with these players whether they like it or not.

As far as setting my own deadline. Theirs was promised two patches ago. If there had never been 8 man I might be a little more patient but they chose the PUGs over organized players with a promise that we would have a short amount of time dealing with it. You can be sure I'll meet my deadline.

Really hate when ppl say to join a TS server to get into a group. The whole point is i shouldnt have to. Matchmaking should be 100 percent fair either way you look at it. When 8v8 comes back, matchmaking should only put them against each other 8v8. Same with 4v4.

[Davers]

In defense of afkers...I CTD a LOT (5x in a row last night) since the Cataphract patch. In one 4 man drop we ended up with 2 CTD and 1 Yellow screen. It is happening a lot. Until that is fixed, I think 8 man groups will just come down to how many guys don't have game issues rather than skill.

[Broceratops]

stop blaming afks for losing to 8 pugs with your 4 man.

[RG Notch]

Pendraco, on 28 November 2012 - 11:44 AM, said:

Just take a break and come back when we hit phase 2, I see no reason to get upset and start making childish demands.

But but how will I ever convince them of my sincerity without childish threats and tantrums.

Edited by RG Notch, 28 November 2012 - 03:09 PM.

[xRaeder]

Add server browser and this will no longer be an issue and PGI won't have to split the community between PUGs and friends who want to play together.

It's that simple.

[Lin Shai]

Broceratops, on 28 November 2012 - 02:14 PM, said:

stop blaming afks for losing to 8 pugs with your 4 man.

Yeah ... I have a hard time with all the complaining about this from anyone that plays on a team.

Our win/loss ratio didn't change at all when they cut teams to 4. Doesn't really matter if our PUGs play, don't play, rambo off, etc.

I mean ... there's the incredibly rare case where the other team actually has a 4-man on it AND decent PUGs where that might have an effect, but it's so infrequent it's not even worth mentioning, really.

[Taryys]

We still win about 90% of our games with 4 mans.
Closer games, but we still win.

[Scytale]

Aloric, on 28 November 2012 - 11:28 AM, said:

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You didn't know about how they're addressing matchmaking, then?