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[Ydav]

Buy a computer for the guys who are supposed to work on the optimization, and take the x-box away from them
Please

[TheRuslan]

I agree. Looks like testers don't test anything or don't have proper PC-s. If they tested new pach on min. requirement computers, then we would have no performance issue.

Please, get real, guys, start testing things BEFORE you publish it. Hate when you screw up so EPIC game.

[Straylight]

You do realize that when you're referring to "the testers", you're mostly talking about us, right?

I'm sure PGI has their internal team, but they can only do so much. We, on the other hand, are an expression of the "many eyeballs" philosophy of software development (a philosophy I fully encourage and support). Enough of us are running min-spec or near enough and reporting back on it that I assure you, PGI is aware of the issue.

Mostly, as I understand it, the problem they're dealing with is that DX11 is a PITA to get working right in CE3, and even besides that they're trying to tell CE to do things that it really wasn't designed for and doesn't like doing.

I consider the fact that they got this far, in this game engine, a small miracle.

[TheRuslan]

We are last line of testing. More likely the only line. Looks like they give us raw material to test. So many and so big mistakes would be found in internal testing, or there was some bad desisions in a row that made this game so "screwed up".

There will be no "many eyeballs" soon. Even highend PC are strugeling to run this game.

P.S. So, go ask for help, even from players. There is no shame in asking. Make this game work !

[TheRuslan]

"We are all in this together" - methality will save this game most likely. I have noticed, that some players are more adequete than others. If there would be more info on problems, then there will be more help to you Dev. guys.(for free)

P.S. Niko, we all feel sad, when we see no improvement in performnce, even if you are working all the time on it.

[madcatmike]

Normally, I'd simply ignore a topic like this and move on. For some reason, I'm in a particularly ornery mood so I'll respond.

It's been stated before that PGI does indeed have PCs of all types to test on from what seems to be minimum spec to totally over the top spec. This was, in fact, covered in Ask the Devs 26.

Spoiler

Q: What kind of specs do your guys pc's use? especially the ones you use to test out new changes etc. I ask this because so many people have had huge problems with the performance of this game, and I'd just be interested in seeing why it doesnt seem to affect you guys I mean, I personally dont feel any significant hit to fps,but I'm just lucky.

Thanks for these threads garth, they go along way to comfort the community! [TheAquired]
A: First - thanks, and you're welcome! Second, I got our IT guy to comment here:

We use a variety of different computers in the office. Some examples include:

• Minimum spec test bed(s): five year old Core 2 Duo computers with an 8800GT or Radeon 4800 series cards
• Several spare developer workstations: Core i7s (well Xeons technically) with either GTX 500 series or a range of cards from the AMD 5000 and 6000 series video cards
• A special test bed built for us by Falcon Northwest using a high end processor (the exact one escapes me at the moment) and a GTX 690’
• An in house custom built gaming computer with a Core i7 (not a Xeon this time ) and dual Radeon 7970s in Crossfire
• A Razer Blade gaming laptop

There are others as well that fit somewhere in between the others in that list but overall that should give you a decent look at what we test on. We are continually adding more diverse hardware to our test setups with particular focus on any configurations that either appear to be having issues running MWO or that have the largest user base so we can continue to work to ensure the game runs well on a wide variety of hardware. [Garth/Mike]

One thing about the PC market that people just have to keep in mind is that PC stands for "personal computer". I emphasize the personal aspect. Even if one person's hardware is functionally identical to another person's, the different PCs will react and behave differently. In some cases, it's simply a matter of what software they have installed. With this open beta, they can potentially collect information on literally hundreds and thousands of different specs rather than the handful they may have in house.

Sometimes, the difference between a in performance between two people is that one is running driver version x.xxx.xx.001 versus x.xxx.xx.002 for the other person.

TL;DR? PGI says they have min spec PCs in house for testing.