9 replies to this topic

[Xeven]

Since you have essentially made DHS near useless for many larger mech loadouts how bout you at least reduce their foot print to make them a bit more viable and usefull to larger tonnage mechs?

DHS are supposed to be an upgrade and improvement to cooling efficeincy not a marginal no improvement over using SHS. Right now the sacrice of 3 slots in larger mechs is not worth the marignal or non existent cooling efficeincy gained on large mechs.

Smaller Mechs could not handle as many additional 2 slot DHS as the heavier ton mechs due to weight. I think we should at least test it?

[Ceribus]

Well I disagree with your statement that DHS are useless, I do agree with you suggestion, mainly for a way to balance the benefit of DHS received by lights and that received by heavies.

[Xeven]

Ceribus, on 07 December 2012 - 07:00 AM, said:

Well I disagree with your statement that DHS are useless, I do agree with you suggestion, mainly for a way to balance the benefit of DHS received by lights and that received by heavies.

I said "near useless for many larger mech loadouts". Glad we agree. Only problem with this might be and I THINK clan DHS already use 2 slots...I think. I suppose if they make IS DHS 2 slot they could just give Clan DHS 1.6 cooling to make them better than IS counterpart. I mean they are allready dismissing "TT" values on heatsinks in general why stop now. =)

Edited by Xeven, 07 December 2012 - 07:04 AM.

[deadeye mcduck]

Clan DHS use 2 slots, IS 3.

[Buckminster]

I'd rather see them change the amount of heat that a DHS dissipates before they go and start screwing with slots. Fix the real problem before you introduce new ones.

But I do know what you mean. My K2 has ES and 20 DHS on it, and not a single crit spot to spare. It finally controls the heat of the PPCs though, so I'm trying to look on the bright side. Never mind the fact that 20 DHS should easily handle the heat of two ERPPCs, and that just isn't going to happen.

[Elder Thorn]

i make perfect use of them on an atlas... I think they should cool better, but in the end, i am ok with them as they are.

[MadPanda]

I use DHS on every single mech I've ever build. I'm master with all 4 atlases and 3 cataprachs. Maybe you should learn to play if you think DHS is "nearly" useless.

[Rocket2Uranus]

I think you just solved the DHS Balance issue.

BRAVO GOOD SIR!

Or they could reduce the weight.
Or even bring up the DHS value a .1-.2.

DHS SUUUUUCKS

[Buckminster]

MadPanda, on 07 December 2012 - 07:26 AM, said:

I use DHS on every single mech I've ever build. I'm master with all 4 atlases and 3 cataprachs. Maybe you should learn to play if you think DHS is "nearly" useless.

I wouldn't necessarily say "L2P" here - the man does have a point. When I was adding DHS to my K2 (stock weapons - 2xPPC and 2xML) I ran out of crit spaces. With the 14 crits eaten up by ES I had reached a point where I was out of space but still had three tons of weight to spare. Sure, I could have ditched ES to clear up crits, but then I lose the three tons of weight that I have. I wanted more heat sinks, because even 19 DHS doesn't take care of two PPCs, but didn't have the physical space for them. I ended up having to throw in a 275 engine (instead of 260), for two tons, which also gave an in-engine DHS space for that final ton.

When in reality, 15 DHS should have been more than enough, and I should have had that available crit space and weight for other upgrades - maybe MPL or something.

Edited by Buckminster, 07 December 2012 - 08:23 AM.

[Alois Hammer]

Problem: If we make Inner Sphere "sort-of-Double-but-not-really Heat Sinks" 2 crit spaces, then to maintain everything's relation do we make Clan "1.4 Heat Sinks" take 1, making them an absolute mandatory no-brainer must-have piece of equipment once introduced?