17 replies to this topic

[Vic Nice]

Hi guys,

I just recently discovered that this game was available again but sadly, I cant seem to download the software to play it.

I have a macbook Pro Retina with 2.6ghz and 16gigs of ram.

Any help given will be greatly appreciated.

Victor

[Ryvucz]

It currently does not have Mac support (they do not plan on supporting Macs).

[RFMarine]

dual boot or run a virtual OS so you can run windows

[Flapdrol]

yeah, install windows on the macbook, then run it from there.

[Vic Nice]

Ohh, man this blows.

Why wouldnt they support Macs? Is it some sort of Apple Bias.

I'll look into installing windows into Apple.

Victor

[CompproB237]

It's probably because the Rights are mostly owned by Microsoft.

Edit: You'll need to look into Bootcamp. That's how you can get most Apple systems to allow Windows to be installed. How? I don't know.

Edited by CompproB237, 03 December 2012 - 06:50 AM.

[Redshift2k5]

Not supporting Macs is a long tradition for PC games- It costs a lot of time and money to implement, something many small companies (and even the big ones) often do not have resources for. It took LoL a long time before they moved to Mac support, and many other big games have never moved to Mac.

[Rushin Roulette]

Vic Nice, on 01 December 2012 - 10:06 AM, said:

Ohh, man this blows.

Why wouldnt they support Macs? Is it some sort of Apple Bias.

I'll look into installing windows into Apple.

Victor

Yup. because Microsoft actually own the rights to Mech Warrior and they have not allowed IGP/PGI to licence MWO to teh Macintosh crowd.

You cna however install Windows on your Mac and then you cna play MWO without problems as far as I can tell from comments on these forums.

[RFMarine]

Redshift2k5, on 03 December 2012 - 06:55 AM, said:

Not supporting Macs is a long tradition for PC games- It costs a lot of time and money to implement, something many small companies (and even the big ones) often do not have resources for. It took LoL a long time before they moved to Mac support, and many other big games have never moved to Mac.

yeah, its a simple matter of economics. no conspiracy theories needed. the Microsoft liscence only adds insult to injury

same reason why accessories and cases for cellphones like samsung and the iphone are abundant but the same for a more esoteric cellphone brands like O+ or ZTE are rare

Edited by RFMarine, 03 December 2012 - 07:45 AM.

[Glanitos Griffon]

Actually has nothing to do with "Licensing" and all to do with programming.

So here is a quick breakdown why this game doesn't work with mac (from a programmer)

Modern games use what's called "Hardware Accelerated Graphics" which in a layman's terms means it uses your "GPU".
There are two major Interfaces to talk to the GPU. DirectX and OpenGL

Almost every AAA title game is made using DirectX, Microsoft makes DirectX, thus inorder to keep vendor lock they do not make DirectX for Mac, Linux, BSD, or any other *nix. All of the *nix's use OpenGL.

It is very rare to see a major PC game using OpenGL. Why? Because OpenGL is included in video drivers, and almost all video drivers are pure ****!

Thus Cryegine(MWO) uses DirectX. And there is nearly zero chance they'd make an OpenGL renderer. Why? It wouldn't work on most computers and it's not worth the money!

You could try using Wine, which would emulate directx9, though I'm not sure how well it works on Mac. I think apples are for idiots so I avoid touching them.

[Vic Nice]

Glanitos Griffon, on 03 December 2012 - 11:11 AM, said:

Actually has nothing to do with "Licensing" and all to do with programming.

So here is a quick breakdown why this game doesn't work with mac (from a programmer)

Modern games use what's called "Hardware Accelerated Graphics" which in a layman's terms means it uses your "GPU".
There are two major Interfaces to talk to the GPU. DirectX and OpenGL

Almost every AAA title game is made using DirectX, Microsoft makes DirectX, thus inorder to keep vendor lock they do not make DirectX for Mac, Linux, BSD, or any other *nix. All of the *nix's use OpenGL.

It is very rare to see a major PC game using OpenGL. Why? Because OpenGL is included in video drivers, and almost all video drivers are pure ****!

Thus Cryegine(MWO) uses DirectX. And there is nearly zero chance they'd make an OpenGL renderer. Why? It wouldn't work on most computers and it's not worth the money!

You could try using Wine, which would emulate directx9, though I'm not sure how well it works on Mac. I think apples are for idiots so I avoid touching them.

So everyone who has a Mac is an *****? I wonder how Apple survives?

I was going to respond with a smart comment but then I realize that a person who calls another person an ***** simply because they see things differently, is not worth my time.

Thanks to everyone who responded to the question asked on the thread. This question was not intended to start a debate over Mac OS or Windows.

I'm currently working on putting Windows on my Mac (something that is not possible the other way around) and I look forward to getting back to Mech Warrior. I've been waiting a long time to play this.

Vic

[Kyle Polulak]

Rushin Roulette, on 03 December 2012 - 07:28 AM, said:

Yup. because Microsoft actually own the rights to Mech Warrior and they have not allowed IGP/PGI to licence MWO to teh Macintosh crowd.

I love how people talk as if they actually know what is going on inside the company without being an employee; so when you see this stuff being touted as truth, please make sure they have a cow skull icon...

We currently do not have a Mac client and this is not because we have an Apple bias, some of us are avid Mac users and are championing getting a Mac client someday, but as with anything awesome it takes time and money.

You can use Apple's Bootcamp utility to dual boot any official Apple hardware and install Windows. It comes standard on any newer Mac and is available in Applications/Utilities.

[Rushin Roulette]

Kyle Polulak, on 06 December 2012 - 11:13 AM, said:

I love how people talk as if they actually know what is going on inside the company without being an employee; so when you see this stuff being touted as truth, please make sure they have a cow skull icon...

We currently do not have a Mac client and this is not because we have an Apple bias, some of us are avid Mac users and are championing getting a Mac client someday, but as with anything awesome it takes time and money.

You can use Apple's Bootcamp utility to dual boot any official Apple hardware and install Windows. It comes standard on any newer Mac and is available in Applications/Utilities.

Well you know... there is a setion in the forums where you cow skull guys and girls could clear up some confusion...

http://mwomercs.com/...8-ask-the-devs/

use it wisely instead of letting ignorant forumites make educated guesses on the basis of how MS and Apple work. Btw. I never said that this was 100% the truth... or that I worked for Pirana/IGP/PGI.

Looking back at the past few Ask the Devs answer posts I cant see any question regarding why MWO isnt being ported to the Mac in the answers.

P. S. sorry to hear that you are an avid Apple fan... thats ok. Some people like Twilight, so liking Apple isnt too bad considering,

[tuokaerf]

MWO runs perfectly fine on my MacBook Pro with Bootcamp (Win 7 64-bit). It's pretty cheap to grab a copy of Windows, about an hour or so for install, and you're up and running.

[Gremlich Johns]

Vic Nice, on 03 December 2012 - 05:40 PM, said:

So everyone who has a Mac is an *****? I wonder how Apple survives?

Macs represent maybe 16% of the personal computer market (before switching to Intel processors, it was about 5-6%). Not enough market share to warrant porting games to that platform. Plus, the Fruit crowd is notoriously not associated as being serious Gamers - you are probably the 1-4% of Mac owners that is even interested. An emulator or the purchase of a $600 gaming rig is your option. use XP (phasing out in 2014) or Win 7 64-bit ($89-$140) though, I'm not sure how 8 would work on a MacOS.

And not all, just most, Apple users are tools who have drank the kool-aid. Spend good money ($1100-$3000) for something Apple hopes you replace every 2-3 years? Although I applaud their business model, (relieve people of their surplus cash) non-Apple PCs running Win 7 are just better and cheaper. AND you can play MW:O on a lot of them.

Mini-pad

[tuokaerf]

Gremlich Johns, on 06 December 2012 - 04:41 PM, said:

And not all, just most, Apple users are tools who have drank the kool-aid. Spend good money ($1100-$3000) for something Apple hopes you replace every 2-3 years? Although I applaud their business model, (relieve people of their surplus cash) non-Apple PCs running Win 7 are just better and cheaper. AND you can play MW:O on a lot of them.

I do agree a lot of people buy them because they drank the kool-aid a bit ($1,300 computer to type papers and browse the Internet on). My day job is in the music software business, and Mac is my preferred platform for the quality software and hardware support. I can use OS X for all of that and boot into Win 7 to play some games/etc.

[RFMarine]

Vic Nice, on 03 December 2012 - 05:40 PM, said:

I'm currently working on putting Windows on my Mac (something that is not possible the other way around)

wait. isnt that statement false becasue of the existence of hackintosh???

[madcatmike]

RFMarine, on 07 December 2012 - 12:20 AM, said:

wait. isnt that statement false becasue of the existence of hackintosh???

Not quite. It's a bit of a grey area.
Windows software is hardware agnostic. It can be installed on anything that meets the minimum requirements.
Mac software requires specific hardware. A hackintosh is exactly what the name implies, they fool the OS into believing they are installing on a Mac.

Edit: Removed double quote

Edited by madcatmike, 07 December 2012 - 12:38 PM.