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#1 Sephlock

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 11:56 PM

You can have your BS "green slots = srm slots unless you have ECM too" device.

Just give an ECM slot to all the founders' mechs.

Or better yet, give it to all mechs, but only for legendary founders.

Then we can call it even.

#2 MoonUnitBeta

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 12:10 AM

View PostSephlock, on 02 March 2013 - 11:56 PM, said:

You can have your BS "green slots = srm slots unless you have ECM too" device.

Just give an ECM slot to all the founders' mechs.

Or better yet, give it to all mechs, but only for legendary founders.

Then we can call it even.
Jenner D was going to get ECM... until the entire forum exploded with rage about how that was OP....

Looks like they picked the wrong mech to QQ about and forgot about the 3L... I'm still angry at the forums for that... But I'm angry at PGI who thought the Jenner D shouldn't get ECM because of the missile slots (and it currently be OP at the time) but green-lighted the 3L to be totally fair.

Edited by MoonUnitBeta, 03 March 2013 - 12:11 AM.


#3 One Medic Army

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 12:12 AM

View PostMoonUnitBeta, on 03 March 2013 - 12:10 AM, said:

Jenner D was going to get ECM... until the entire forum exploded with rage about how that was OP....

Looks like they picked the wrong mech to QQ about and forgot about the 3L...

Look at how much hate the Raven gets.
Can you imagine if it had jumpjets, a larger engine, and another laser hardpoint?

Then again, Jenners seem to die faster then Ravens, so perhaps it wouldn't have been so bad.

#4 Hedonism Robot

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 12:13 AM

it would be worse if the jenner D got the ECM. It has 4 laser hp and 2 missiles and can support a 310 size engine. The raven 3L is bad but this would have been horrible.

#5 Sephlock

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 12:17 AM

View PostHedonism Robot, on 03 March 2013 - 12:13 AM, said:

it would be worse if the jenner D got the ECM. It has 4 laser hp and 2 missiles and can support a 310 size engine. The raven 3L is bad but this would have been horrible.


So restrict ECM to the Founder's version only. Or better yet, only to those belonging to Legendary Founders.

Problem solved, and everything is all better.

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Don't mind me, I'm still salty about my Founder's Hunchie losing its Hunch in the first 3 seconds of every encounter.

#6 Errant Variable

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 12:33 AM

JR7-D pilot, agreeing that adding ECM would be broken. It might provide a reason to drive a -K though...

#7 Sephlock

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 12:47 AM

http://en.wikipedia...._vehicle_armour Just let me put some of that on that hunch.... fill the AC/20 barrel with concrete... SOMETHING.

#8 Spiketail Drake

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 12:53 AM

Here's a radical idea for ECM: Make it counter BAP, TAG and NARC, reduce lock range by 25%, regardless off BAP/pilot skills, increase locktime by 25%. Drop the hiding bubble, it should only work for the mech it is equipped on., but only as a counter to electronic warfare. ECM should be like flares on planes.

#9 Sephlock

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 01:00 AM

It already flat out makes Narc (something that is already useless) useless. It also messes with TAG, and BAP is just... ... bleh.

#10 Buzzkillin

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 01:10 AM

View PostSephlock, on 03 March 2013 - 12:17 AM, said:

So restrict ECM to the Founder's version only. Or better yet, only to those belonging to Legendary Founders.

Problem solved, and everything is all better.

<3.

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Don't mind me, I'm still salty about my Founder's Hunchie losing its Hunch in the first 3 seconds of every encounter.



So the people who paid will get a large advantage, which is the definition of, pay to win?

#11 One Medic Army

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 01:12 AM

View PostBuzzkillin, on 03 March 2013 - 01:10 AM, said:

So the people who paid will get a large advantage, which is the definition of, pay to win?

I think that was closer to the definition of a joke.

#12 Buzzkillin

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 01:21 AM

View PostOne Medic Army, on 03 March 2013 - 01:12 AM, said:

I think that was closer to the definition of a joke.


Sometimes I'm not always sure if these threads are serious or not.

#13 Sephlock

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 01:24 AM

View PostOne Medic Army, on 03 March 2013 - 01:12 AM, said:


I think that was closer to the definition of a joke.


It was partly a joke :D.

And it would be RETROACTIVE pay to win, which is a whole different thing.

Really!

And I really doubt that even ECM could redeem my poor founder's Hunchie... maybe if they gave it two extra slots in each arm (any type would be fine).

#14 MoonUnitBeta

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 01:52 AM

View PostOne Medic Army, on 03 March 2013 - 12:12 AM, said:

Look at how much hate the Raven gets.
Can you imagine if it had jumpjets, a larger engine, and another laser hardpoint?

Then again, Jenners seem to die faster then Ravens, so perhaps it wouldn't have been so bad.

Can you imagine that the Jenner D with ECM would be probably the only hard counter to 3L's? (but not really, it would just add to the chaos)
What difference does it make if people use 4 3L's, or 4 Jenner D's, or a combination of the two? It's all the same..
Extra laser hardpoint? Useless
Larger Engine? Useless
Jumpjets? Useless
ECM + Streaks? That's the deal breaker.
Jenner D can use streaks. The Raven can use streaks. The raven has 3 modules slots. The raven has more armor. The Raven can run just as fast as the Jenner. So, yea. I think if the Jenner-D got ECM it wouldn't be the end of the world.

Edited by MoonUnitBeta, 03 March 2013 - 02:01 AM.


#15 PANZERBUNNY

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 02:00 AM

Restricting a Jenner ECM to the Founder version would be very interesting and not totally crack pot.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 02:53 AM

View PostSephlock, on 02 March 2013 - 11:56 PM, said:

You can have your BS "green slots = srm slots unless you have ECM too" device.

Just give an ECM slot to all the founders' mechs.

Or better yet, give it to all mechs, but only for legendary founders.

Then we can call it even.


The originator of this literature demonstrates, with certain vigor, the capability to conjure within himself an almost abnormal and indeed bewildering degree of buttmad....brother.

Edited by ChrisOrange, 03 March 2013 - 03:22 AM.






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