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[MadPanda]

I've got the obvious two best ones, 5S and 5M. So now I need to decide which one to get to complete elite status. If you look at the hardpoints, it seems that the 3F has the most hardpoints, only loses one AMS to the 5S. But I've been reading that the missile holes can be different, for example the 5M has a single missile fire bay. Anything quirky like that I need to know about the 3F, 3H, 4N? Which one would you get and why?

[Dewil]

They are all pretty much identical. Anything you can make with any Stalker... Can be made with 5S. The only thing that 3F loses is one AMS slot.

It is so booooring! The Stalker is the only mech released that have absolutely no extra hardpoints! 3H should get an extra missile slot in the ears as every other mech that comes with a stock LRM20 gets an extra missile slot. 5M could get an extra energy slot in center torso to give the option of having 2 medium lasers instead of 1 large.

In general... Stalkers need some extra hardpoints to make them different as right now we have 5S and variants that the 5S can copy anyways.

[Eisenhorne]

I'm actually going to go 3H for my last stalker. I heard that it has 20 tubes per arm, so it launches all your missiles in a single salvo instead of 2 salvos.

[nungunz]

Wait for a Hero Stalker?

[TheFuzzyBunny]

/me wants hero Stalker..

[MadPanda]

nungunz, on 19 December 2012 - 03:09 PM, said:

Wait for a Hero Stalker?

That's gonna take ages to come. I need my elite perks naow!

I decided to go with the 3F. I looked at all the models and simply couldn't come up with a single reason why I should get 3H or 4N.

[nungunz]

3F does have a better torso twist than the rest of the Stalkers.

[Loqgar]

Eisenhorne, on 19 December 2012 - 01:56 PM, said:

I'm actually going to go 3H for my last stalker. I heard that it has 20 tubes per arm, so it launches all your missiles in a single salvo instead of 2 salvos.

Can Anyone confirm this? this is critical information.

[Stingz]

Loqgar, on 21 December 2012 - 01:02 PM, said:

Can Anyone confirm this? this is critical information.

Yes, you can even take a testrun in the Trial Staker-3F. Game files show that -3F has about 85% twist compared to 60 default.

Edit:Read it wrong

Edited by Stingz, 22 December 2012 - 05:48 AM.

[Loqgar]

Stingz, on 21 December 2012 - 01:15 PM, said:

Yes, you can even take a testrun in the Trial Staker-3F. Game files show that -3F has about 85% twist compared to 60 default.

When you say "yes" I'm not sure if you are talking about the Stalker-3H having 20 tubes per arm, and thus being able to fire the most missiles in one volley of any stalker.

I know the -4F has better torso twist range, That can be found at http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/ This is what I (and I hope many others) use for up to date info. Smurfy was nice enough to add torso twist already, it is great reference.

[Hammerfinn]

Loqgar, on 21 December 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

When you say "yes" I'm not sure if you are talking about the Stalker-3H having 20 tubes per arm, and thus being able to fire the most missiles in one volley of any stalker.

I know the -4F has better torso twist range, That can be found at http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/ This is what I (and I hope many others) use for up to date info. Smurfy was nice enough to add torso twist already, it is great reference.

The 3h does have 20 tube arms.

[Zerwikaptur]

Is the extra torso twist on 3F planned or this is a bug that will be fixed?

[Ascendent]

The Stalkers are different and I think its a mistake to think they are a like. The subtle differences are reasonably substantial.

The 3F has greater torso twist (better close up). The 3H has 20 tubes per arm (all others have 10, I haven't checked the 4N though) and makes the best missile boat (unless you want to put an LRM20 in the narc slot and use it like a minigun).

The 4N I have no experience with. If it has 20 tubes in the arm its a better hybrid direct and indirect fire variant than 5S etc. If not, well, not sure what to say on this one. The 5M has 5 missile slots, but one is a single tube slot.

he 5M does steaks better than others as a result, and if you like the minigun effect you can go for SRM6s (but if you're going to boat SRM6s and brawl the 3F is the best choice).

The 5S has dual AMS, ideal for carrying your team across the trenches. And they can protect your lack of torso twist.

I think its worth having a 3F for solo brawling and 3H for best Assault LRM support. Then depending on what you do in game, either a 5M or 5S (or both). Go for 5S if you play with a team to provide AMS coverage (and your teammates can cover your flank), or 5M for its unique hard point combination (just remember 1 missile slot is a single tube like the Raven).

This is just what I've come up with so far. In short there are more variables to a mech than hardpoints, and not all hardpoints are the same (eg missile tube number or CT energy slots that wont fit PPCs etc). It's just a shame they leave it to us to figure out a lot of this stuff on our own and don't just list all relevant specs with the mechs on the website (at least).

Edited by Ascendent, 21 December 2012 - 03:22 PM.

[TheFuzzyBunny]

Well I've bought 4 and elited all 4. I only kept the main two, but it was nice to test out the other two.












I still want my hero Stalker.... And it better look cool, not poop with stars or anything...

[MadPanda]

TheFuzzyBunny, on 21 December 2012 - 05:31 PM, said:

I still want my hero Stalker.... And it better look cool, not poop with stars or anything...

I hope it looks like a purpledildo. Kinda like this below but more dildoish, maybe with glitter.

Edited by MadPanda, 21 December 2012 - 05:51 PM.