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Highlander And Stalker Mechs - Are They Going To Be In The Atlas, Awesome Group Of Mech Or In A Group Of Their Own?


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#21 J4ckInthebox

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 02:53 AM

yep, in order to unlock yellow perks.
you cannot "skip" them even if you unlocked master skills.

#22 Mech Merc

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 02:53 AM

View PostKhobai, on 10 December 2012 - 02:51 AM, said:


Yeah. But from the looks of it the Stalker is just inferior to the Awesome-9M in most ways. Mainly because the Stalker wont be able to use all its weapon hardpoints efficiently without true double heatsinks.


Yeah I don't play what's the best - I play for what interests me so I'll probably go for it anyway.

Edited by Mech Merc, 10 December 2012 - 02:54 AM.


#23 De La Fresniere

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 02:56 AM

Really... the pilot lab clearly states you only need to Elite three variants of a *weight class* to access Master efficiencies, and it's just not true?

I've been misinformed by players before, but then again I've been misinformed by the game too, so... I guess I'll see for myself if I ever start playing MWO again.

#24 Gaeb

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 03:00 AM

View PostDe La Fresniere, on 10 December 2012 - 02:56 AM, said:

Really... the pilot lab clearly states you only need to Elite three variants of a *weight class* to access Master efficiencies, and it's just not true?

I've been misinformed by players before, but then again I've been misinformed by the game too, so... I guess I'll see for myself if I ever start playing MWO again.


You need basicx3 on the same chassis type to unlock elite.
You need elitex3 on the same *weight class* to unlock master.

So to get Master on a Stalker, you need 3 stalkers with basics maxed, and that stalker + 2 other assaults to have elites maxed. Those assaults can be Stalker, Atlas, or Awesomes.


That's how I read it anyhow. I haven't tested for certainty.

Edited by Gaeb, 10 December 2012 - 03:01 AM.


#25 J4ckInthebox

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 03:03 AM

the game doesn't lie to you. the "weights classes" are light, medium, Heavy and Assault. If you Elite one Jenner and two centurions, you won't unlock master for any of them. However, if you Elite one jenner and two Commandos, you wil unlock master for every variant of every ligh mech (Jenner, Commando and Raven)

But if you want to reach the master perk in a specific variant of a specific light mech, you will still have to unlock all basic efficiencies for at least 3 variants of that light mech.

Edited by J4ckInthebox, 10 December 2012 - 03:04 AM.


#26 De La Fresniere

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 03:42 AM

View PostJ4ckInthebox, on 10 December 2012 - 03:03 AM, said:

the game doesn't lie to you. the "weights classes" are light, medium, Heavy and Assault. If you Elite one Jenner and two centurions, you won't unlock master for any of them. However, if you Elite one jenner and two Commandos, you wil unlock master for every variant of every ligh mech (Jenner, Commando and Raven)

But if you want to reach the master perk in a specific variant of a specific light mech, you will still have to unlock all basic efficiencies for at least 3 variants of that light mech.


If that's true, then the game does lie. It says I unlock master if I Elite any three chassis in a weight class, and that's not true; it's just *one* of the conditions required.

After unlocking basic efficiencies for six mechs and reaching a point where I can't reasonably make any more C-bills, it's clear that I'll never Elite another mech ever again, much less Master. Not that I could afford any Modules anyway.

On a completely unrelated matter... Brittany, eh? I was thinking of taking a vacation there next year. Must be fantastic to live there.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 03:48 AM

View PostMech Merc, on 10 December 2012 - 02:41 AM, said:


Maybe I'm misunderstanding how the pilot skills work then.

If I get to master in 3 atlas mechs and I buy one awesome I will be able to get to master pilot skill level without buying another awesome?



No, not for 'Elite'.
But works for 'Master'.





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