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#1 Stone Wall

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:19 PM

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Q: What is your personal reaction when things like the Catapult K2, A1, ECM or Streaks are called OP? Do you laugh? Do you cry? Shake your heads? Something in the middle? [Thorn Harris]
A: I am actually EXTREMELY happy when I see a massive variety of Mechs being called OP - it means we're doing our jobs correctly. In the last week, I've had almost every single chassis called OP in PM's. So I love it, personally :P
That said - I am surprised on occasion. The 'Commando is OP!' threads caught me by surprise. [Garth]


So the feedback is any mech that works is being called OP by individuals.

#2 Rex Budman

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:21 PM

yes because it's a variety of mechs, not just one mech group. That means they all have the power to do each other over.

Imo, there are no under powered mechs in this game. They all have their advantages and pilot skill fills in the gaps.

#3 Stone Wall

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:34 PM

I agree. It feels like the same balance of past MW games.

#4 Tennex

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:50 PM

i think the consensus is that ECM is OP. and nobody said the commando was OP until ECM.

#5 FerretGR

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:18 PM

Bet he hasn't seen many complaints about OP Awesomes or OP ERPPCs.

#6 Orzorn

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:20 PM

Currently, I wouldn't say any mech besides the Raven is OP, and only the Raven because of its intense lag shield. Manageable with good allies, but frustrating as all hell.

#7 Lefty Lucy

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:45 PM

"A1 and K2"

-two mechs

-devs think that's a "massive variety"

-FML

#8 Walk

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:48 PM

View PostLefty Lucy, on 11 December 2012 - 06:45 PM, said:

"A1 and K2"

-two mechs

-devs think that's a "massive variety"

-FML


What? Those two mechs were in the question. The dev responded by saying there's a lot of variety in the emails. They are two unrelated statements.

#9 Stone Wall

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 04:32 AM

View PostWalk, on 11 December 2012 - 06:48 PM, said:


What? Those two mechs were in the question. The dev responded by saying there's a lot of variety in the emails. They are two unrelated statements.


Garth said: In the last week, I've had almost every single chassis called OP in PM's.

#10 MustrumRidcully

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:23 AM

View PostStone Wall, on 12 December 2012 - 04:32 AM, said:


Garth said: In the last week, I've had almost every single chassis called OP in PM's.

Did he make a statistics on how often each chassis was called OP? (Not that I expect him to do so, PMs aren't exactly the easiest thing to statistically count...)

That some people complain about everything may be normal, actually. But you have to look for the anomalies and outliers. Those can tell you a story.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:40 AM

View PostStone Wall, on 11 December 2012 - 05:19 PM, said:


So the feedback is any mech that works is being called OP by individuals.


Really?
I mean, REALLY?!

Who are these people who make up the game rules and mechanics? I want to see these people face to face.

There are groups dedicated to pulling nothing but Catapults for god sakes and if it wasn't for ECM I'd still be dealing with the 2 most annoying variants. The raid boss and the TEE HEE MISSILE FLASH GAME.

I'd like to hear the ******** justification for the fact LRM5's do as much DPS as PPC without the heat from across the map, behind and over cover.

I'm going to be using ECM as often as possible, just incase it was infact a fluke and the devs really are that disconnected from reality.

#12 MustrumRidcully

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 05:47 AM

I think the only way to settle this is a poll.

#13 Jace11

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 06:10 AM

The previously O.P mechs like the A1 and the Jenners are just not as good anymore. ECM basically nerfed the LRM boat, the streak cat and the Jenner. Not bad things in my opinion. Direct fire mechs are now more common which is fine I think. A1s and boats need help in ECM environments. If there isn't ECM around, they are still dangerous. Commandos are not O.P if you have ECM help to counter. They blow up quite nicely.

But, having said that, my new raven with ECM has made life much easier. I'm getting 2 or 3 kills a game, like I do with my Cents, but I'm not dying as often.

What ECM has done, is change which mechs are O.P. I sold my streak cat and got an ECM mech like everyone else. Game balance will keep moving with each patch, tweak and when new mechs and equipment are introduced. I don't think we can complain about that in a rapidly evolving game like this.

#14 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 06:57 AM

you are right Jace11

My Founders Atlass with an AC20, 4 medium Pulse, and 2 SRM6 is way over powered. I even get One shot kills using it! ECM has totally hampered the ability to beat this monster. Stop me before I kill again! :)

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 07:08 AM

View PostTennex, on 11 December 2012 - 05:50 PM, said:

i think the consensus is that ECM is OP. and nobody said the commando was OP until ECM.


Wrong. My streakmando was OP and all the jenner pilots whined about it long before ECM.





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