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[chaz706]

Unique mechs from history would probably the best thing they could go for...
...that or unique mechs (one off Productions) with some unique properties/handicaps... like the frankenmechs (I'm thinking Schwerer Gustav).

A reference for those who don't know what I'm talking about [Source: sarna.net]

Oh... and locked configurations... that's part of what makes them unique.

[John Clavell]

I'd rather pay a premium to have the unseen mechs. I'm sure a licensing agreement could be put in place. Pass the cost of that onto the customer to have the unseen mechs. I don't think anyone is going to not buy them. As to the hero mechs. Not sure how I feel about seeing 10 Yeng-Lo-Wang's in a match or 10 of Natasha Kerensky's Warhammer. One thing I think would be better is to allow you to have special variants which might not be possible via the normal variants.

Edited by John Clavell, 17 May 2012 - 12:17 AM.

[verybad]

Ian Williams, on 16 May 2012 - 10:12 PM, said:

hopefully the term "premium" will only apply to cosmetic items, maybe one more mod slot, but not anything more.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
Snerk. Yeah. That'll happen.

[neodym]

Image hero Commando,or hero Urban.... assaults beware lol XD

[Alfred VonGunn]

FOrgot to say.. I would expect them to be a mech that you could only get through buying them.. Nice but not overpowering... The real point to having them just lik eteh premium tanks in WoT is as much about cash flow for the company as anything else... Those that can buy them and et a slight bump in exp and cash earned using them.. but no real advantage over others..

I would suggest they be Light,Medium,Heavy and Assault set you get seperately.. Maybe even have them be the Mechs they were around but NOT everywhere.. There are several Mechs from Battletech that were only used by 1 House and not the others. Those would be teh prime Hero Mechs I would think.. Not everyone has them..

Edited by Alfred VonGunn, 17 May 2012 - 02:03 AM.

[THELONGSHANKS]

John Clavell, on 17 May 2012 - 12:16 AM, said:

I'd rather pay a premium to have the unseen mechs. I'm sure a licensing agreement could be put in place. Pass the cost of that onto the customer to have the unseen mechs. I don't think anyone is going to not buy them. As to the hero mechs. Not sure how I feel about seeing 10 Yeng-Lo-Wang's in a match or 10 of Natasha Kerensky's Warhammer. One thing I think would be better is to allow you to have special variants which might not be possible via the normal variants.

I agree. I still think any cash only chassis will already have a comparable mech of the same weight available through normal means. With the 'mech lab in the equation, and the different hardpoints that the different variants will have, the premium 'mech will basically be an elaborate skin, capable of fielding more or less the same loadouts as the normal mech, but looking completely different.

[Shezmu]

Maybe it could be some of the more obsolete or rare chassis that have ceased production? They don’t need any advantage or disadvantage just not often found on the battlefield. Maybe something like the Atlas 2? http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Atlas_II

[Adridos]

Probably things like Kai Allard's Yen-Lo-Wang (i.e. swap the rockets for a bigger gun + badass look), or Yorioshi Dragon (take out everything except ML, add LL and SL, SRM-4 with one on of ammo and a flamer + 3 tons of armor and 5 heatsinks).

[Redshift2k5]

Even a slight advantage like an extra module slot is still providing a distinct advantage to paying players, which is exactly what the Devs said they won't want to do.

I would expect to see changes such as different hardpoints, different weapons on the same hardpoint type(LBX-10 instead of a stock AC/10, etc), coming complete with endo-steel or other expensive upgrades, and of course special cosmetic features and paint (special cosmetic modeling would give you even more incentive). Everyone is going to make kickass custom loadouts anyway, but a ready-to-go custom loadout with a sweet new paintjob could be enticing!

Lots of things that can be done to make a money-only premium variant special without being a discrete advantage.

For example: Adding two gauss rifle to an Atlas. not sure if you could easily do so with the existing variants, but you probably could. Add on a special custom Atlas skull and paint and you've got a very tempting package:

AS7-K2 Atlas Jedra - Used by Lord Jedra Kean of Vega this variant of the Atlas removed the standard weaponry. Each arm carried aLight Gauss Rifle. The right and left torsos each carried a pair of ER Medium Lasers and a single SRM 4. The center torso carried a single ER Medium Laser. The armor protection, heat sinks, and ground performance remained identical to a standard AS7-K2. BV (2.0) = 1,971^[28]

Edited by Redshift2k5, 17 May 2012 - 03:44 AM.

[Adridos]

Well the mechs of the heroes truly respect the hardpoints, they just make the mechs into very special variants suited exactly for them (Yen-Lo-Wang being a special kind of Centurion perfect for arenas).

[Shezmu]

Shezmu, on 17 May 2012 - 03:16 AM, said:

Maybe it could be some of the more obsolete or rare chassis that have ceased production? They don’t need any advantage or disadvantage just not often found on the battlefield. Maybe something like the Atlas 2? http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Atlas_II

A better example would have been a Daboku, http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Daboku, does not have any advantages but would still be considered a rare chassis and would still be different from a Mauler.

[Rattlehead NZ]

Using a mix of ideas already mentioned. How about this:

Mech variant 1 - Primary Ballistic setup
Mech variant 2 - Primary Energy setup
Mech variant 3 - Primary Projectile setup (Missiles)

Hero Mech - One time selectable hard-points (One time choice of customized hard-point system)

Sort of like an omni mech but the extra cost covers the specialized layout. Hard-points can be changed, but same number as original chassis and must be chosen upon purchase.

[Fresh Meat]

Well I am looking forward to buying a Timber Wolf with JJ's

[theginganinja]

Fresh_Meat, on 17 May 2012 - 10:02 AM, said:

Well I am looking forward to buying a Timber Wolf with JJ's

Why buy a separate variant? It's an OmniMech - put them on yourself!

Edited by irishwarrior, 17 May 2012 - 10:13 AM.

[Jonas]

I think they would just have extra hard points or they have all the hard points of the variants ( you still have to work with X amount of tonnage )
but lets say the Centurion has 3 variants in stead of buying all 3 you by the hero and you can mod it to match any of the 3 with out buying the 3. That would work for me its not pay to win because you still only have 23.5 tons to play with when it comes to weapons.

[Displacer]

For all we know the mechs might be fairly standard, but the pilots have different skills that cant be learnt normally.

I had another look at the Role Warfare Dev Blog and it could mainly be a preset pilot in the mech that has rare abilities.

[verybad]

Actually a cool thing for "hero" mechs would be unique modules giveing them benefits that you can't get for standard mechs.No extra firepower, just an ability. Some might be command and coms, perhaps super fast aiming, or faster recharging jets, all sorts of possibilities.

However, I would personally prefer if such abilities aren't "extra" that is, it's still just a Dragon (For instance) and if you take the special hero module, then you get one less other module.

[Redshift2k5]

verybad, on 17 May 2012 - 12:43 PM, said:

Actually a cool thing for "hero" mechs would be unique modules giveing them benefits that you can't get for standard mechs.No extra firepower, just an ability. Some might be command and coms, perhaps super fast aiming, or faster recharging jets, all sorts of possibilities.

However, I would personally prefer if such abilities aren't "extra" that is, it's still just a Dragon (For instance) and if you take the special hero module, then you get one less other module.

Even if it is just special modules, that goes against the idea that everything that affects gameplay can be acquired with in-game-currency. Pre-loaded with modules, maybe, but not loaded with special or unique modules.

[cpt Hyde]

The thing is that ... it dosen't really matter if the game will be p2w or not. It's mechwarrior with supreme graphics and (from what i've seen, ON YT) tons of fun, WE ALL GOING, like it or not TO PLAY IT.
althoug i really like the idea of :

chaz706, on 16 May 2012 - 11:15 PM, said:

Unique mechs from history would probably the best thing they could go for...
...that or unique mechs (one off Productions) with some unique properties/handicaps... like the frankenmechs (I'm thinking Schwerer Gustav).

A reference for those who don't know what I'm talking about [Source: sarna.net]

Oh... and locked configurations... that's part of what makes them unique.

also premium mechanic-sidekick sounds sweet...
PS remember where there are in game credits\coins\daimonds etc. there are also competitions and occasions to win some

[Bolo Warden]

If a "premium" mech was to be offered, whether you can assign the hardpoints, they have an additional hardpoint, using one generates more c-bill per match, etc, I would hope that it would be a reward for reaching a certain number of experience and/or loyality points. Being able to buy a "premium" with a brand new char, I would probably feel that they hadn't earned the right to such a mech at that time. Play the game, let the character age a bit, then maybe...