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[Lanessar]

Anyone can armchair quarter back. I'd like half these yahoos to take a video of their next match (not their best match, but the next one) and post it up so we can play "peanut gallery".

[Mack1]

Lanessar, on 14 December 2012 - 01:45 PM, said:

Anyone can armchair quarter back. I'd like half these yahoos to take a video of their next match (not their best match, but the next one) and post it up so we can play "peanut gallery".

Also am an entertainer not a Mech pilot

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Lanessar, on 14 December 2012 - 04:11 AM, said:

Very cool. I am a Jenner pilot, and haven't played much in the Jenner because I agree with your assessment.

me too. Dont play games to play easy mode lol

[Nonsense]

Mack1, on 14 December 2012 - 01:33 PM, said:

Well i disagree, I was in the right place at all the critical times, helped 3 team mates, saved the base almost twice, got 4 kills 3 assists all with a Mech armed with 4 lasers, and no upgrades other than DHS.

I don't understand how you think you're saving money by crippling your mech. It just makes you lose more because you do far less damage than you would with a full suite of weapons/ammo. Lately I'm seeing atlases start battles with red internals. They die so fast. It sucks.

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As I said to the other guys, please post the timecodes of where I was making poor judgements.

You don't need a timecode for "you failed to leg the Raven at the end" or "you're playing against terrible opponents" or "you're trying to kill light mechs in a mech with no arms that you've admittedly stripped down to save cbills"

There are shots you fire at 2:55, 3:04, 4:04, 4:30, that simply wave laser fire over a Mech's entire body while saying things like "OOHHHH look at the damage they can absorb!" Yes, you're doing 9+9+5+5 (28) damage with all your weapons, but it's spread out over the entire mech...some of it not hitting the mech at all because of the mech's speed vs. your aim or because of the fact that you don't lead fast targets at all. So, your 28 damage is probably more like 10-15 spread out over possibly 2 arms and 5 torso sections (yes, lights often turn while you're shooting them so you partly hit them in the back.)

At about 3:40 instead of shooting the raven/awesome right next to you, you look at some stuff going on far away...leaving the assault mech alive for multiple extra weapon cooldowns.

At 4:20, you get an incoming missile warning (GASP, LRMs) and you continue onto their side of the map instead of taking cover or trying to break lock. You then try to power down even though you have good cover from the LRMs, and you put your armorless rear CT facing a swarm of light mechs. You then mash your button so hard it powers you back up instantly.

I could go on, but I figure that's enough. The rest of the video is similar.

Yes, it's easy to armchair analyze after the fact. I somewhat apologize for my tone, but it's largely a reaction to the droves of people whining about ECM and making wildly ridiculous claims such as yours. When I start making videos, I'm sure I'll see myself doing dumb things, and when I do, I'll post them with commentary and with a good sense of humor.

I'm happy to help anyone get better at the game, but people need some humility first when they're new to a game instead of downright arrogance and ignorance. You can't learn if you think you're always right, and that's the message I'm seeing from a lot of the whiners on the forums.

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Post your own videos and let me have a watch please.

Working on it.

[Wispsy]

Mack1, on 14 December 2012 - 01:33 PM, said:

Well i disagree, I was in the right place at all the critical times, helped 3 team mates, saved the base almost twice, got 4 kills 3 assists all with a Mech armed with 4 lasers, and no upgrades other than DHS.

I don't buy a lot of the ******** that I read on forums, you are all going to stray around the wrong corner or over the wrong hill from time to time and that happens to everyone. I read the situation perfectly well during a very hectic battle, I even knew they were heading to our bae at the end. But I am sure you are going to reply with all the timecodes where I put my Mech in the wrong place, I look forward to reading it

You have me all wrong I was not saying you are doing bad things and a terrible player but there was little things like the commando died next to you (possibly on your screen or might have just left it for half a second b4 missiles got him) and you did not realise he was dead
I also miss things and make a lot of stupid mistakes so do not take it to heart, just at the time of me watching it it seemed painfully obvious to my eyes

[Mack1]

Nonsense, on 14 December 2012 - 02:31 PM, said:

I don't understand how you think you're saving money by crippling your mech. It just makes you lose more because you do far less damage than you would with a full suite of weapons/ammo. Lately I'm seeing atlases start battles with red internals. They die so fast. It sucks.



You don't need a timecode for "you failed to leg the Raven at the end" or "you're playing against terrible opponents" or "you're trying to kill light mechs in a mech with no arms that you've admittedly stripped down to save cbills"

There are shots you fire at 2:55, 3:04, 4:04, 4:30, that simply wave laser fire over a Mech's entire body while saying things like "OOHHHH look at the damage they can absorb!" Yes, you're doing 9+9+5+5 (28) damage with all your weapons, but it's spread out over the entire mech...some of it not hitting the mech at all because of the mech's speed vs. your aim or because of the fact that you don't lead fast targets at all. So, your 28 damage is probably more like 10-15 spread out over possibly 2 arms and 5 torso sections (yes, lights often turn while you're shooting them so you partly hit them in the back.)

At about 3:40 instead of shooting the raven/awesome right next to you, you look at some stuff going on far away...leaving the assault mech alive for multiple extra weapon cooldowns.

At 4:20, you get an incoming missile warning (GASP, LRMs) and you continue onto their side of the map instead of taking cover or trying to break lock. You then try to power down even though you have good cover from the LRMs, and you put your armorless rear CT facing a swarm of light mechs. You then mash your button so hard it powers you back up instantly.

I could go on, but I figure that's enough. The rest of the video is similar.

Yes, it's easy to armchair analyze after the fact. I somewhat apologize for my tone, but it's largely a reaction to the droves of people whining about ECM and making wildly ridiculous claims such as yours. When I start making videos, I'm sure I'll see myself doing dumb things, and when I do, I'll post them with commentary and with a good sense of humor.

I'm happy to help anyone get better at the game, but people need some humility first when they're new to a game instead of downright arrogance and ignorance. You can't learn if you think you're always right, and that's the message I'm seeing from a lot of the whiners on the forums.

Working on it.

Oh you are so arrogant, calling the enemy team terrible opponents, honestly you need to give your head a shake and start having a bit respect for other people. I may swear a bit and call people a little **** or **** in my videos but it's clearly all in good fun, but you are so serious and so horrible that it must really suck to have your personality.

I made loads of mistakes in this battle but I still maintain I was in the right place at the right time, my mech load did let me down but it's a money making mech. I took 70% damage, lost the game and still made 100k profit. I usually make 240k profit on a win, am not changin the spec for anyone, it's a brilliant build for what it's purpose and took a lot of working out.

Saying stuff like you looked to the right instead of helping the Atlas just shows how pathetic your post is, I was assessing the situation instead of rushing into the first fight I saw. I also killed a mech when I strayed over the hill into the enemy. I made some good leg shots on the raven at the end and if my mech was so crippled how come I took out 4 and got 3 assists?

You say you could go on...you have said nothing what so ever, they were all good decisions, you are nothing more than a bitter, self righteous troll and I have a nice little request.

Add me to friends please, I want to have some matches with you, i will fraps them all and post them all on this thread. My camera will be on you as soon as I die so over the course of about 6 games I should have plenty footage as you are so good I will clearly die well before you do. I am sure the other readers are looking forward to watching you never make any mistakes. What say ye?

Guys I won't ever get the invite, he is just a trolling little hater.

[Elizander]

I enjoyed that video a lot. I'm afraid they need to fix the net code up a bit more so until then, we'll need to use 'The Force' in order to hit light mechs. Very exciting commentary though. Hope to see more.

[GODzillaGSPB]

Mack1, on 15 December 2012 - 03:38 AM, said:

Oh you are so arrogant, [...]

And you're so arrogant for not using TAG to actively counter ECM in a mech that has plenty of room for it. Instead you cry about ECM like a little child. You're arrogant for stripping your mech down, then call light mechs OP. You're arrogant for calling all those who complained about streakcats the single cause for ECM (which is probably wrong on at least two levels) and the nerf for min-max-builds like the streakcat while you refuse to take any kind of responsibilty, having played and recommended this build, too.

Yeah sorry, you used this strong word.

[Zakie Chan]

You all need to lighten up. It was a great video to watch! Sure he may not be the top mech pilot, but he never said he was. The game was well played and showed proper game awareness. His movements throughout the match kept him engaged but not committed. It was what allowed him to last so long and still put up a good fight for the base cappers.

You're going to make a big deal of not taking the ravens other leg? CT was yellow no armour, Leg was orange... Legs are small and it takes more time to line up the shot. Besides, you get more damage for a hit than a miss.

Id play with Mack anytime over stuffy shirts like the rest of you. He knows teamwork and also knows how to laugh.

[Wispsy]

Mack1, on 15 December 2012 - 03:38 AM, said:

I made loads of mistakes in this battle but I still maintain I was in the right place at the right time, my mech load did let me down but it's a money making mech.

You were doing fine with the mech loadout, the only mistake you really made that caused you to lose was getting a little overexcited when the raven hobbled to your cap and moving a tad too close so you could not quickly and easily line up the kill shot (was sure you had it) and he managed to get you. I would advise against powering down to lose missile lock in most situations though btw if you had not done that it is likely he would not have been able to get you in the end anyway It sounds more helpful then it really is, either find cover or make a hard turn once you hit an active ECM bubble.

I am not saying you are a bad player Just like to give some helpful advice on occasion!

[GODzillaGSPB]

Zakie Chan, on 15 December 2012 - 08:55 AM, said:

You all need to lighten up. It was a great video to watch! Sure he may not be the top mech pilot, but he never said he was. The game was well played and showed proper game awareness. His movements throughout the match kept him engaged but not committed. It was what allowed him to last so long and still put up a good fight for the base cappers.

You're going to make a big deal of not taking the ravens other leg? CT was yellow no armour, Leg was orange... Legs are small and it takes more time to line up the shot. Besides, you get more damage for a hit than a miss.

Id play with Mack anytime over stuffy shirts like the rest of you. He knows teamwork and also knows how to laugh.

In my opinion he's using the videos to proclaim (again) that ECM and (this is new afaik) light mechs are OP. Yes it might be funny, but he is serious about it as far as I can tell.

[Felicitatem Parco]

I'm moving this thread to Off-Topic since the thread is basically a discussion about a specific video and its contents and not really an honest discussion about MechWarrior: Online general gameplay. If it were, the thread would be based upon a textual discussion about ECM or scouts or something, and there would be a clear direction of discussion (pertaining to gameplay, in general). However, this is a personal video piece, and it's not really being presented in the form of a proper Guide. If a user would like to generate a guide on how to make money, then it may be posted in the General Guides section of the forums.

[Raidyr]

Op light mechs would be less Op if you worked on your aim with lasers a bit. Netcode issues are frustrating but when/if it gets fixed you won't notice much a difference if you can't hit the Ravens anyway.

[Lanessar]

Prosperity Park, on 16 December 2012 - 01:30 PM, said:

I'm moving this thread to Off-Topic since the thread is basically a discussion about a specific video and its contents and not really an honest discussion about MechWarrior: Online general gameplay. If it were, the thread would be based upon a textual discussion about ECM or scouts or something, and there would be a clear direction of discussion (pertaining to gameplay, in general). However, this is a personal video piece, and it's not really being presented in the form of a proper Guide. If a user would like to generate a guide on how to make money, then it may be posted in the General Guides section of the forums.

I think it is a commentary on general gameplay at this time in MW:O. It is a graphical representation (with humorous commentary) on the netcode errors causing issues with targeting light mechs.

So, I must humbly disagree. I won't ragequit if you fail to see my point, however.