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[Sifright]

yashmack, on 15 December 2012 - 02:21 AM, said:

and you guys are way to pessimistic

Yea... Right, because the devs totally didn't ever at any point say that CW would be released 90 days after closed beta ended?

yashmack, on 15 December 2012 - 02:21 AM, said:

I have no idea when CW will be introduced, and from the impression I get from the interviews I have heard CW is a ways off, probably not by Feb 2014 but I imagine we could see bits and pieces of it introduced here in about 6 months

Buwhahaha, more than a year to get the part of the game in that was the biggest draw for most players? Yea, the playerbase will be gone by then.

[o0Marduk0o]

Sifright, on 15 December 2012 - 02:53 AM, said:

Yea... Right, because the devs totally didn't ever at any point say that CW would be released 90 days after closed beta ended?

Buwhahaha, more than a year to get the part of the game in that was the biggest draw for most players? Yea, the playerbase will be gone by then.

And again, you have totally no clue what you're talking about.

They plan to add CW 90 days after LAUNCH. Launch is next year Jan/Feb and this would be only the first iteration of CW, nowhere near final.
So get your facts straight or QQ somewhere else.

[yashmack]

Sifright, on 15 December 2012 - 02:53 AM, said:

Yea... Right, because the devs totally didn't ever at any point say that CW would be released 90 days after closed beta ended?

I dont think that's right, where have they said 90s days after OB? I always heard 90 days after launch... in fact I dont think Ive ever heard a firm commitment to when it will be released other than something along the lines of "later"

Sifright, on 15 December 2012 - 02:53 AM, said:

Buwhahaha, more than a year to get the part of the game in that was the biggest draw for most players? Yea, the playerbase will be gone by then.

yeah, theyre working on getting core mechanics in place, then adding content and the CW aspect
I dont think the player base will be gone, I wont be thats for sure...

Edited by yashmack, 15 December 2012 - 03:39 AM.

[von Pilsner]

o0Marduk0o, on 15 December 2012 - 03:14 AM, said:

And again, you have totally no clue what you're talking about.

They plan to add CW 90 days after LAUNCH. Launch is next year Jan/Feb and this would be only the first iteration of CW, nowhere near final.
So get your facts straight or QQ somewhere else.

How about you get your facts straight before trying to correct someone else... Otherwise someone may accuse you of having totally no clue what you're talking about.

from: http://mwomercs.com/...veloper-update/

Russ Bullock, on 15 June 2012 - 01:10 PM, said:

I don't have an exact projected release of the Community Warfare feature set but we fully expect to have the core of the community experience in the game within 90 days of open beta.

[Sifright]

http://mwomercs.com/...eveloper-update

control F 90

Thats where.

Open beta is the games launch.

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The one exception is the Community Warfare pillar which is a complex system but extremely important. In not wanting to delay the game, logic dictates it be added post-launch. Once fans are completely familiar with creating their 'Mech and pilot trees, the depth of Community Warfare will be added, with the core of the community experience projected to be in-game within 90 days of open beta.

Read that post very carefully,

THE DEVS.

CALL OPEN BETA.

GAME LAUNCH.

Edited by Sifright, 15 December 2012 - 03:52 AM.

[yashmack]

ok, the 90s days is in reference to the "core of the community experience" and to me that does not mean all of community warfare but instead core pieces of it like the separate game modes that will be part of it as well as the maps and system to create groups and possibly lances, etc

now, if you read the first couple sentences they state

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The one exception is the Community Warfare pillar which is a complex system but extremely important. In not wanting to delay the game, logic dictates it be added post-launch.

so, reading that I fully understand the core community components will be in place after open beta and that the full community warfare pillar will be in game some time (unspecified!!) after launch.

Edited by yashmack, 15 December 2012 - 03:54 AM.

[Sifright]

yashmack, on 15 December 2012 - 03:52 AM, said:

ok, the 90s days is in reference to the "core of the community experience" and to me that does not mean all of community warfare but instead core pieces of it like the separate game modes that will be part of it as well as the maps and system to create groups and possibly lances, etc

now, if you read the first couple sentences they state


so, reading that I fully understand the core community components will be in place after open beta and that the full community warfare pillar will be in game some time (unspecified!!) after launch.

That is some impressive mental gymnastics.

The actual combat modes in game have next to nothing to do with CW.

Nothing to do with CW is in the game.

[yashmack]

Im just giving you my interpretation of what they said, it seems straight forward to me
trying to convolute what they said to fit your ideal timeline is not the right path

in order of the paragraph they said community warfare will be in the game after launch, they then said that core components of it will be in the game by 90 days after open beta...

[Brilig]

I wonder what the "core" of CW consists of.

Also open beta was what OCT 29th? So there is still about a month and a half left to go for them to reach their projected goal of having the "core" of community warfare implemented within 90 days of OB.

I really am hoping a lot of this will be cleared up by the 18th. Phase three of matchmaking, and the Economics/New User Phase 0.5 might be big parts of the "core" of CW.

I have a feeling they may fall short of having the territory control meta game aspect by the end of 90 days. Does anyone remember what Matchmaking Phase 3 is supposed to consist of?

Edit: Doh was simpler to find than I thought.

Phase 3:

We have been examining the various ranking systems in other games/structured tournament play etc. This includes ELO, TrueSkill and others. Our current plan is to use a hybrid system that uses the mentality of ELO with a weighting system that we’ve determined that drives down to player effectiveness/skill in a match. In order for this to work properly, we will need to do heavy pre-release testing before it goes live to the community and hence the amount of time to get it implemented.

We currently cannot go into detail as to how this system will work because we are not going to over-promise something that may change during implementation. We will try to keep you as up to date on this as possible.

Edited by Brilig, 15 December 2012 - 04:19 AM.

[Tickdoff Tank]

AndrewOsis, on 15 December 2012 - 12:36 AM, said:

None of you can read apparently. I have read every forum and I check daily. The ask the devs says "dont ask" which (wow cant say the word for wizz) me off. Next ill call PGI and complain. I wish Americans got the game because apparently Canadian work ethic is lacking to say the least. Too much cold weather and good crippy.

They aren't saying anything because the system is still in development and many things may change. If they tell you that they are planning on doing ABC+FGH+XYZ and then it turns out that they have to delay XYZ for 3 months and FGH for 2 months and launch with just ABC then people will get in proper nerd-rage mode.

It is better if they just wait untill they are closer to launching the system so they can be more accurate in their announcement. They have already said as much as they are comfortable with and there is no reason to expect more at this time. When they have more info for us they will make the announcement, and I (and just about everyone else) would love for that to be soon. But don't hold your breath.

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(wow cant say the word for wizz)

You could always try "tickdoff"

[Stone Wall]

Teralitha, on 15 December 2012 - 12:31 AM, said:

Try reading the command chair forums, or look through ASK THE DEVS questions and answers.

+1

[Sifright]

von Pilsner, on 15 December 2012 - 03:45 AM, said:

How about you get your facts straight before trying to correct someone else... Otherwise someone may accuse you of having totally no clue what you're talking about.

from: http://mwomercs.com/...veloper-update/

Oh man I totally got ninjaed and didn't realise.

[o0Marduk0o]

von Pilsner, on 15 December 2012 - 03:45 AM, said:

How about you get your facts straight before trying to correct someone else... Otherwise someone may accuse you of having totally no clue what you're talking about.

from: http://mwomercs.com/...veloper-update/

And once again, L2Read forums instead of searching many month old threads. You refer to outdated information while we know it better from several "Ask the Dev" Threads.

[Andrew Osis]

I just want a confirmation of IF it is going to happen and what it MAY consist of. No one ever asked for concrete details. I never said the dev team should be ousted either Im just wondering whats taking so long here. Ok so CW is a ways off, well then why is content taking so long to be added when its clear that they can quickly put in crap like XMAS cockpit items to make a buck. Many of us have already paid triple what a AAA title costs now days and the pace at which they are moving is just disturbing. Again this is more or less a mod and it shouldent take so long to add mechs and maps. Not every map has to have the detail of say, River City. Give us a map with rolling hills, bam done. I could do it myself in the level editor in a matter of hours. They have 50+ employees so they could pump out some basic maps very quickly and honestly I think everyone would appreciate it. If the mechs are done from an art perspective then what the hell is taking them so long to get into the game? If we had all the mechs announced in the game I would be happy with that pace which I would still say is pretty slow by industry standards. If CW wont happen till next year we need a lobby and a system to challenge other clans so we can make ladder and planetary leagues ourselves as has been done in the past. I dont think one thing I have said is even remotely uncalled for. Its like when you rent a house, you expect it to have working appliances, carpet, plumbing fixtures etc. I feel like I rented a house that is empty with holes in the wall and leaky pipes that the landlord refuse to even address in conversation.

[Harmatia]

AndrewOsis, on 15 December 2012 - 12:36 AM, said:

None of you can read apparently. I have read every forum and I check daily. The ask the devs says "dont ask" which (wow cant say the word for wizz) me off. Next ill call PGI and complain. I wish Americans got the game because apparently Canadian work ethic is lacking to say the least. Too much cold weather and good crippy.

Insulting their home is not going to win you any love, or answers. As an apparent typical bigmouth American, you just shot yourself in the foot. I'd try explaining some things to you about how PGI is developing MWO, but I imagine it would result in a lot of bitching.

I got an idea, why don't we outsource it to China! They'll get it down.

[Rifter]

Simple yes or no, please no discussion in this thread i dont want it locked like the others.

Stating why or why not concerned is fine though just no general discussion.

[Belorion]

Rifter, on 15 December 2012 - 01:41 PM, said:

Simple yes or no, please no discussion in this thread i dont want it locked like the others.

Stating why or why not concerned is fine though just no general discussion.

Then why not make it a poll only? Its quite routine for companies to not talk about upcoming products.

[Zero Neutral]

Speaking in detail about functionality that may or may not make it to the game is unproductive...

I see no problem here.

ALSO this does not even hold true... that they are locking all posts regarding CW...

That's Weird This One is Not Locked!

ALSO THE END IS NIGH!!!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!

Edited by Zero Neutral, 15 December 2012 - 01:46 PM.

[Slaytronic]

Zero Neutral, on 15 December 2012 - 01:44 PM, said:

Speaking in detail about functionality that may or may not make it to the game is unproductive...

I see no problem here.

ALSO this does not even hold true... that they are locking all posts regarding CW...

That's Weird This One is Not Locked!

ALSO THE END IS NIGH!!!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!

Don't worry it will be it's a Saturday takes them a bit longer on the weekends

[Rifter]

Belorion, on 15 December 2012 - 01:43 PM, said:

Then why not make it a poll only? Its quite routine for companies to not talk about upcoming products.

I did not know this was an option

Zero Neutral, on 15 December 2012 - 01:44 PM, said:

Speaking in detail about functionality that may or may not make it to the game is unproductive...

I see no problem here.

ALSO this does not even hold true... that they are locking all posts regarding CW...

That's Weird This One is Not Locked!

ALSO THE END IS NIGH!!!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!

I have zero doubt by the end of the day it will be locked, mine made it 2-10 hours depending on time of day posted.