142 replies to this topic

[MasterGoa]

I have been a fan of Mech Warriro games since virtual world in Montreal
back in 1996. We played MWO in life size pods and it was awesome.

The people there LISTENED to what the players were saying and we
could hone our skill sets. The game was well balanced and fun for all.

Now, I have two mechs, two MadCats, one
long range and one short range.

Before we go into locking missiles, think of lag.
There is a lot of lag everywhere, and there is a KNOWN lag
bug when you turn. The only way to counter this is locking missiles.
At least, with a 140KPH mech.

However, locking does NOT work unless you or your teammates
use RADAR. So, if ECM wants to prevent radar to work, I am totally fine with this.

However, missiles lock using heat. This is true in todays military
and has been true since 1952. Why would a future technology be totally castrated
and rendered useless by a radar jammer?

It makes no sense at all that LOS locks are impossible because of a radar
jammer AND identifying your team mates...

Here is one of many results from an opposing team with two ECM:


Note damage inflicted...

So I will vote with my wallet. I will stop playing MWO because I should not be forced to bring a knife to a gun fight...

Also, the dev number ONE PRIORITY is to correct leg turning lag.
Going from 55FPS to 6 because I turn is not acceptable, and everyone
I know has the same issue with your game.

Good luck and godspeed, as i have been enjoying this game
for over 15 years...

Edited by MasterGoa, 15 December 2012 - 09:10 AM.

[Wingbreaker]

Enjoying this game for more than a decade

Doesn't know how missiles work in BT.

[Alphascrub]

Hmmm... I have stopped spending money on mwo right now anyway, because for one I already spent to much, and for another it still in beta.

I do know this... Unless I'm sitting on a ton of cbills when the spider hits, I will in fact buy the spider.

[Corbon Zackery]

Like I said the thing is everything I fought today has had some sort of ECM on it yet when I check the loadout of any of the mechs I own I cant equip it on any of my mechs the range and bubble might need to be tighter but right now its key item on the field.

The fact that the beagle prob seems to be a dummie item right now really makes ECM dominate on the battle field.

[bug3at3r]

How is a gauss/AC20/PPC/ERPPC/LL a knife exactly?

[RockWolf]

Tag anyone?

[Joseph Mallan]

bug3at3r, on 15 December 2012 - 09:12 AM, said:

How is a gauss/AC20/PPC/ERPPC/LL a knife exactly?

AC20 Knife due to short range
LL a Dagger cause well daggers are longer than knifes
Gauss/PPC/ERPPC swords!

[Vexgrave Lars]

MasterGoa, on 15 December 2012 - 09:08 AM, said:

Now, I have two mechs, two MadCats, one
long range and one short range.

I don't know what your playing, but I want to Play..!
YOU HAVE CLAN TECH??

[Tickdoff Tank]

I have seen quite a few scoreboards that even more lopsided than the one you posted. The only difference is that the winning team had no ECM and the losing team thought ECM made them invulnerable.

[Alphascrub]

Joseph Mallan, on 15 December 2012 - 09:14 AM, said:

AC20 Knife due to short range
LL a Dagger cause well daggers are longer than knifes
Gauss/PPC/ERPPC swords!

My sword must be very long, because just last game I shot a emc commado in the chest with dual gauss from around 500 meters and watched him do a faceplant slide into a lake. He liked it so much He told me I was op and should learn to play. I then laughed, and proceeded to target their emc raven. He took about 8 shots (kept missing cause of laughter)

[Daiichidoku]

MasterGoa, on 15 December 2012 - 09:08 AM, said:

So I will vote with my wallet. I will stop playing MWO because I should not be forced to bring a knife to a gun fight...

this is a free game..your vote counts as much as they do in florida

also, this is mechwarrior; bring your mech to a mech fight and you will be fine, promise

Edited by Daiichidoku, 15 December 2012 - 09:20 AM.

[Kdogg788]

Corbon Zackery, on 15 December 2012 - 09:11 AM, said:

Like I said the thing is everything I fought today has had some sort of ECM on it yet when I check the loadout of any of the mechs I own I cant equip it on any of my mechs the range and bubble might need to be tighter but right now its key item on the field.

The fact that the beagle prob seems to be a dummie item right now really makes ECM dominate on the battle field.

The beagle just gives you a small bonus to sensor range and target lock that is to worth its weight. It should be a hard individual counter to ECM whereby a mech with BAP should be able to negate ECMs for itself within a given range, I'd say 400 to 500 meters.

-k

[Webber]

So. See you around

Or! You could play with a team. Even with one other person, you could see much better results.

[Urza Mechwalker]

I coutner OP wiht, I already spent more than 100$ on this game and I want ECM to stay!

[Joseph Mallan]

Alphascrub, on 15 December 2012 - 09:18 AM, said:

My sword must be very long, because just last game I shot a emc commado in the chest with dual gauss from around 500 meters and watched him do a faceplant slide into a lake. He liked it so much He told me I was op and should learn to play. I then laughed, and proceeded to target their emc raven. He took about 8 shots (kept missing cause of laughter)

Gauss=Claymore?

[Wispsy]

5 founders vs 2 trials.

WE LOST
ECM MUST BE OP

[Alphascrub]

Joseph Mallan, on 15 December 2012 - 09:24 AM, said:

Gauss=Claymore?

Lots of more on this Claymore.

[Liberty]

Threats are not constructive and technically you haven't left the game because it is Beta. The game really hasn't started. I know that you know that but don't leave. ECM will not go away because it is a canon element to the game just like the mechs and the weapons that they use are. How ECM gets put into final form is in part up to you and the MWO community. Please continue to play but post the reasons why the game is jacked up and give examples. Give suggestions how to fix or change but be realistic in expectations and give time since new patches and code have to be put into effect. I agree in that it can be frustrating and I myself didn't want to come back after the LRM Artemis hell incident. If you have contributed then continue to provide new examples. I try to have fun rather than worry about number of kills and win/loss ratios. Also, I recommend joining a guild or team of friends to work with if you have not done so. May as well gripe together.

[KingCobra]

I just voted with my wallet and my time which=0 USD and 0= time. Like the OP I have been with the MechWarrior IP since 1995 and before that to 1990 with MechWarrior 1 and BT board games. The game right now is not worth the effort of playing it except to come on the forums and place a few comments which are just my own opinions. There are so many good games out there right now to play MechWarrior does not even come close to most in quality and fun entertainment. I have posted in my topics and posts what I think needs to be done to help the game but like most topics and posts it gets laid to rest in the PGI's don't give a crap pile. I'm a missile commander and without a lock I cant find enjoyment in watching my enemy's surprise as missiles rain down and make his life hellll .

[Apoc1138]

A few... like a thousand... yeah this game is totally not worth your time