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[The Real Tsavo]

Now I realize this is really just a fantasy, but a friend and I have been talking, and we've both been quite excited about Mechwarrior Online, but for years we had imagined our ideal MMO adaptation of Battletech also incorporating Aerotech, along with some of the ground units. I realize it might be a bit ideal, but given the expansion in other games, such as WoW, and Eve Online, it could be a fun idea. Any thoughts? Or news that I had obviously missed somehow?

[Manthony Higgs]

Q. Will there be vehicular combat alongside Mechs for the players this time?
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A. At the moment we are not following up with combined arms (tanks, hovercraft, jets etc.)[/color]

[zverofaust]

No thanks. I'd like a Mechwarrior game to be about Mechs.

[Lanc3rz3r0]

I personally think a Combined Arms (with the other units that arent mechs AI controlled) in certain mission types, such as "defend/destroy your/the enemy base"
I like the idea of battlemechs being another weapon, even though in their universe they are THE weapon, as they weigh the same/less than tanks and carry the same/more arms/armor.

[Pawn Couch]

The Real Tsavo, on 26 May 2012 - 05:43 PM, said:

Now I realize this is really just a fantasy, but a friend and I have been talking, and we've both been quite excited about Mechwarrior Online, but for years we had imagined our ideal MMO adaptation of Battletech also incorporating Aerotech, along with some of the ground units. I realize it might be a bit ideal, but given the expansion in other games, such as WoW, and Eve Online, it could be a fun idea. Any thoughts? Or news that I had obviously missed somehow?

MW:LL has those things

[pursang]

Pure 'Mech on 'Mech action. If Piranha does it well enough, that's all you'll ever need in this game.

[TriggerhappySOB]

"I personally think a Combined Arms (with the other units that arent mechs AI controlled) in certain mission types, such as "defend/destroy your/the enemy base."


I agree wholeheartedly, however i wouldn't mind a few extra options in-game such as, if you eject mid-battle, say you get the opprotunity to use another vehicles weapons to strip some armor off the mech that hit you? Id go for it. But I feel there would be some foul-play, and people would just rush headlong into battle, do a really good amount of damage, then eject, and use the guns on a tank nearby to finish the job. For now, id say stick with the mechs, keep it simple, and see what people think. Then add in as requested.

Edited by TriggerhappySOB, 26 May 2012 - 06:19 PM.

[The Real Tsavo]

True, it would be less of a strictly Mechwarrior type game, and more of a general "Tech Series" game, but scope isn't exactly a bad thing ya know, more dynamics and range to the game.

[The Real Tsavo]

TriggerhappySOB, on 26 May 2012 - 06:18 PM, said:

"I personally think a Combined Arms (with the other units that arent mechs AI controlled) in certain mission types, such as "defend/destroy your/the enemy base."


I agree wholeheartedly, however i wouldn't mind a few extra options in-game such as, if you eject mid-battle, say you get the opprotunity to use another vehicles weapons to strip some armor off the mech that hit you? Id go for it. But I feel there would be some foul-play, and people would just rush headlong into battle, do a really good amount of damage, then eject, and use the guns on a tank nearby to finish the job. For now, id say stick with the mechs, keep it simple, and see what people think. Then add in as requested.

True, unless there was a penalty for losing said 'mech, such as money loss and repairs, or complete loss of the 'mech. (Mind you, might not be a good idea due to the increased difficulty, but there could be an interesting dynamic there.)

[pursang]

The Real Tsavo, on 26 May 2012 - 06:18 PM, said:

True, it would be less of a strictly Mechwarrior type game, and more of a general "Tech Series" game, but scope isn't exactly a bad thing ya know, more dynamics and range to the game.

It also means a dilution of the core game, i.e. 'Mech vs. 'Mech combat. There are already games (the board-game, MW:LL to name a few) where you can play with infantry and fighters and the like.

[The Real Tsavo]

Manthony Higgs, on 26 May 2012 - 05:53 PM, said:

Q. Will there be vehicular combat alongside Mechs for the players this time?

A. At the moment we are not following up with combined arms (tanks, hovercraft, jets etc.)

Well it's kind of disappointing, but thanks for pointing me toward the statement!

[farrel wolf]

i think that tanks and such will have to be able to be hidden effectively to make a difference

[Steel Raven]

I like the idea of combine arms but considering the game is Mechwarrior: other vehicles like tanks, Vtols and Aerospace would be dobm down compaired to mechs (there can be only one king of the Battlefeild)

Aerotech Onile would play tomuch like EVE online can't imagin Battletroops Online (squishy online, watch your step) If there is any expansion to BT, it will be where you fight (Clan Space, Periphery) and maybe WHEN (Liberation of Terra, the First SW while the nukes are still falling)

Always though combining Mechcommander with Mechwarrior would be interesting but I doubt one player would listen to another. Mechcommanders would be redused to spectators while Mechwarriors may not always enjoy someone barking oders to them during a fire fight.

[EDMW CSN]

Worry about those later. Balance out the PvP and balance the weapons as priority. Anything else, Piranha can add it in later.

[The Real Tsavo]

pursang, on 26 May 2012 - 06:25 PM, said:

It also means a dilution of the core game, i.e. 'Mech vs. 'Mech combat. There are already games (the board-game, MW:LL to name a few) where you can play with infantry and fighters and the like.

True, and it is fun in the original game, but it would also be nice to have a more hands on, less third person experience. (I have yet to try Living Legends, so I don't know what kind of scope it has.

EDMW CSN, on 26 May 2012 - 06:29 PM, said:

Worry about those later. Balance out the PvP and balance the weapons as priority. Anything else, Piranha can add it in later.

Oh yes, I was only theorizing the concept as expansions, not the base game. I agree with you wholeheartedly.

[Dymlos2003]

The first big patch should be Solaris

[pursang]

The Real Tsavo, on 26 May 2012 - 06:30 PM, said:

True, and it is fun in the original game, but it would also be nice to have a more hands on, less third person experience. (I have yet to try Living Legends, so I don't know what kind of scope it has.


Oh yes, I was only theorizing the concept as expansions, not the base game. I agree with you wholeheartedly.

I understand where you're coming from, and in the perfect world I would love for this game to have those combined-arms elements. Unforunately, Piranha and IGP are small outfits with a rather limited budget, so I don't think they could do the concept justice. It would be nice if they could cater to everyone, but reality tends to bite people in the *** for it.

I don't know, perhaps one day we'll see this idea come to fruition once the developers have made a buttload of $$$ from the frothing fanboy masses.

Edited by pursang, 26 May 2012 - 06:35 PM.

[The Real Tsavo]

farrel wolf, on 26 May 2012 - 06:27 PM, said:

i think that tanks and such will have to be able to be hidden effectively to make a difference

Exactly, it would require tactical play, thinking players.

pursang, on 26 May 2012 - 06:34 PM, said:

I understand where you're coming from, and in the perfect world I would love for this game to have those combined-arms elements. Unforunately, Piranha and IGP are small outfits with a rather limited budget, so I don't think they could do the concept justice. It would be nice if they could cater to everyone, but reality tends to bite people in the *** for it.

I don't know, perhaps one day we'll see this idea come to fruition once the developers have made a buttload of $$$ from the frothing fanboy masses.

Perhaps, perhaps! In the meantime, I will do everything I can to help ensure that that day comes...

[Lord Perversor]

The Real Tsavo, on 26 May 2012 - 06:40 PM, said:

Exactly, it would require tactical play, thinking players.


Perhaps, perhaps! In the meantime, I will do everything I can to help ensure that that day comes...

Well on my opinion the all PGI needs to do it's built it as a skill for the commander and just make them a bit simplistic on patterns.

Examples: Commander can call down a Shilone wings to perform a pattern attack over a fixed area of terrain. (now the battlemechs can just move of the area if they are fast enough (there can be FF) or just shoot them down on the last moments before they reach the target destination.

or a Harasser squad can be assigned to a Mech warrior, the squad will just move in formation around the Battlefield and attempt to attack such mechwarrior target when given an opportunity (just like a DMG bonus if they hit, but still destroyable before they can do serious harm)


I don't expect them be a player choice to be handled like MWLL but mostly a cheap , easy help to side the battle.

[The Real Tsavo]

Lord Perversor, on 26 May 2012 - 06:47 PM, said:

Well on my opinion the all PGI needs to do it's built it as a skill for the commander and just make them a bit simplistic on patterns.

Examples: Commander can call down a Shilone wings to perform a pattern attack over a fixed area of terrain. (now the battlemechs can just move of the area if they are fast enough (there can be FF) or just shoot them down on the last moments before they reach the target destination.

or a Harasser squad can be assigned to a Mech warrior, the squad will just move in formation around the Battlefield and attempt to attack such mechwarrior target when given an opportunity (just like a DMG bonus if they hit, but still destroyable before they can do serious harm)


I don't expect them be a player choice to be handled like MWLL but mostly a cheap , easy help to side the battle.

Could be interesting, I wouldn't be able to resist the urge to be one of those tiny soliers running around and trying not to get killed lol.