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#1 zverofaust

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 07:15 PM

I've noticed the past couple of days that I'm usually the only person in every match playing with a Trial Mech. I think a couple of times I saw one other person, but yeah. Where are all the new players?

#2 CompositeGNFNR

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 07:21 PM

Every day I come across atleast two people claiming to be new, and generally try to help them out by directing them to the forums.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 07:26 PM

tired of the starter mechs

#4 JP Josh

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 07:31 PM

dunno what your talkin about i just got a fellow job core student playin this game hopefully when he gets home (goverment computers are crap)

Edited by JP Josh, 12 December 2012 - 07:32 PM.


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Posted 12 December 2012 - 07:58 PM

I invited four friends of mine and as of today they all quit after a few days because they said the trial mechs are too f*ing awful and make the game as "fun to play as getting a root canal and a ****** exam at the same time." If that is any indication of what PGI has managed to accomplish I don't know what else to say. By the way it was my nephew who made the root canal & ****** exam comment and he is an avid gamer that enjoys pretty much everything so to say that about MWO really means it sucks hot donkey *********.

#6 Rifter

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:02 PM

I have also noticed a drastic decline in trial mechs.

Im not surprised.

The new player experiance is horrible and they have done nothing to improve it so its no surprise that new players are not sticking around.

#7 Obadiah333

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:06 PM

Also, a lot of the new players have earned enough c-bills to get their own mech and trick it out, hence fewer trial mechs running around. As far as streaming goes, I'd expect there to be more "waves" of new players coming in and not so much a "steady flow" of them.

#8 Dark Severance

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:07 PM

View Postzverofaust, on 12 December 2012 - 07:15 PM, said:

I've noticed the past couple of days that I'm usually the only person in every match playing with a Trial Mech. I think a couple of times I saw one other person, but yeah. Where are all the new players?
There shouldn't be anyone really left in trial mechs anymore. Anyone even playing at the casual of casual pace would have enough CBills to purchase any mech at this point and should be actually piloting an actual mech they own.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:08 PM

View Postzverofaust, on 12 December 2012 - 07:15 PM, said:

I've noticed the past couple of days that I'm usually the only person in every match playing with a Trial Mech. I think a couple of times I saw one other person, but yeah. Where are all the new players?

Every match I play seems to have a couple trial awesomes, among other things.

#10 PANZERBUNNY

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:19 PM

Probably playing other games to be honest.

#11 Dark Severance

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:32 PM

View PostPANZERBUNNY, on 12 December 2012 - 08:19 PM, said:

Probably playing other games to be honest.
Well they aren't playing Hawken thats for sure ;)

#12 Lanessar

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:35 PM

View PostDark Severance, on 12 December 2012 - 08:32 PM, said:

Well they aren't playing Hawken thats for sure ;)


Since most of the people signing up for the forums have access already, I'm pretty sure that's not true. Plus, it went live today. With more game modes, better cash shop, a frigging new player tutorial.

Those guys know how to develop.

#13 anonymous175

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:35 PM

I'd rather Starbreeze patch Syndicate.

#14 MacKoga

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:39 PM

I'm waiting till either community warfare is launched, or stability/beta-ness is significantly improved before I tell my friends to check it out.

I'd rather have them be excited and stay, than to be disapointed and leave the game before it becomes what we're expecting.

#15 Dark Severance

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:40 PM

View PostLanessar, on 12 December 2012 - 08:35 PM, said:


Since most of the people signing up for the forums have access already, I'm pretty sure that's not true. Plus, it went live today. With more game modes, better cash shop, a frigging new player tutorial.

Those guys know how to develop.
Um... I have been trying to get a match for the past 1 1/2 hours on all four of their game modes, none of which find a match. Yet I've been playing MWO and have yet to fail to find a match. It went into open beta today, not technically live. Which the biggest and greatest glitch... new account signed up got registered with their call sign as their passwords. Yes... instead of an actual call sign, they ported over people's passwords which became their call signs... that is "BRILLIANT!". Ok not really, going to suck for quite a few people.

I still don't understand the need for a player tutorial. I played it. It said this is how you shoot, jump and repair. All of which is in the videos. I don't understand how shooting at a AI moving target is supposed to provider better playing or understanding, when they can actually play in a game. It isn't like they would actually have to repair or lose anything with a trail mech.

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:44 PM

View PostDark Severance, on 12 December 2012 - 08:32 PM, said:

Well they aren't playing Hawken thats for sure ;)


Erm, I am.

They're having a couple problems tonight but unlike MWO's launch, it's because they're literally slammed with players and are experiencing overload; the servers are full.

I don't know that it's really my kind of game but it's pretty well done. Like someone mentioned, you can definitely see the difference in terms of developer/designer abilities; it's pretty night and day.

#17 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:47 PM

View Postzverofaust, on 12 December 2012 - 07:15 PM, said:

I've noticed the past couple of days that I'm usually the only person in every match playing with a Trial Mech. I think a couple of times I saw one other person, but yeah. Where are all the new players?


in other games
not trolling, but thats what Im starting to think from the few games Ive been in lately

View PostJP Josh, on 12 December 2012 - 07:31 PM, said:

dunno what your talkin about i just got a fellow job core student playin this game hopefully when he gets home (goverment computers are crap)


which JC? I was in Clearfield, Utah for 3 years 2000-2003

#18 Lanessar

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:48 PM

View PostDark Severance, on 12 December 2012 - 08:40 PM, said:

Um... I have been trying to get a match for the past 1 1/2 hours on all four of their game modes, none of which find a match. Yet I've been playing MWO and have yet to fail to find a match. It went into open beta today, not technically live. Which the biggest and greatest glitch... new account signed up got registered with their call sign as their passwords. Yes... instead of an actual call sign, they ported over people's passwords which became their call signs... that is "BRILLIANT!". Ok not really, going to suck for quite a few people.

I still don't understand the need for a player tutorial. I played it. It said this is how you shoot, jump and repair. All of which is in the videos. I don't understand how shooting at a AI moving target is supposed to provider better playing or understanding, when they can actually play in a game. It isn't like they would actually have to repair or lose anything with a trail mech.


Don't get me wrong. I don't want to play the game because it's CoD with robots.

However, their development path had correct priority. The tutorial is an important point to any game. You get a feel for movement, how the weapons respond, what aiming does. You can't tell me that would not drastically improve player retention rates here.

That being said, I didn't run into the bugs you did. I logged in, I found three matches, played, didn't enjoy the gameplay (again) and left.

The only reason I bring these points up is that Hawken followed a correct development path for new player retention. MW:O sadly did not, and I'm sure their numbers reflect it. Were I not invested in this title, or if I had missed the 2009 video, or plain didn't care, I wouldn't be posting here. I'd be playing TL2 or beta testing another game.

Edited by Lanessar, 12 December 2012 - 08:48 PM.


#19 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:49 PM

View PostRifter, on 12 December 2012 - 08:02 PM, said:

I have also noticed a drastic decline in trial mechs.

Im not surprised.

The new player experiance is horrible and they have done nothing to improve it so its no surprise that new players are not sticking around.


putting money into the game to skip the horrible grind doesnt work with new players (especially non MW fans)

View PostPANZERBUNNY, on 12 December 2012 - 08:19 PM, said:

Probably playing other games to be honest.


hey Im not the only one that thought of that

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:50 PM

Waiting for final?





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