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#1 ohnd Reaper

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 03:12 AM

Ok, after being on A LOT of teams with 1-2 AFK and idle players I thought I might suggest a way to discourage this.

I believe that only those that do damage should receive the rewards post game, capturing the point should allow all team members to receive rewards.

I think this would help stem the tide of AFKs and what appears to be bots that just move and target continually but do nothing apart from that.

And yes I know new players might find it hard to do damage and thus miss out on the rewards but even the worst player in the world could do at least 1 damage point per round.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 04:32 AM

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 04:33 AM

I started to play MWO with the open beta start and i dont remember any aktive round with 0 dmg . So yes 1 dmg can do anybody but this is to easy to exploit . Sure it needs a kind of bot script then but its still to easy.

Make 40 dmg , this is pretty low anybody should do this for the team anyway and more. My normal round is not lower then 200 dmg + xx and bad round still 100 + and i am casual und 100 pug player . If anybody got bad luck and bring lower then 40 dmg ok then he got nothing , **** happens . PGI could also raise the reward a bit to compensate bad luck .

Edited by Haxburch, 14 December 2012 - 04:38 AM.


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Posted 14 December 2012 - 04:37 AM

View Postdeadeye mcduck, on 14 December 2012 - 04:32 AM, said:



This is big BS , because nothing is happen and better gamedesign is the much better solution . At last for AFK ers and Suiziders and Idler .

Edited by Haxburch, 14 December 2012 - 04:38 AM.


#5 The Basilisk

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 04:58 AM

Stop making whining threads.

Its pretty insulting to be confronted with such a annoying demanding and pseudoentitled manner.

As already stated much much much to much times before:

Your so called afk ers or idlers are mostly simply people with CTDs ( crash to desktops) and or yellow, black or red screens.
You got 1-3 people in every game on both sides in a regular manner with some kind of bug thats preventing them from participating in the game. Frozen controls that turn you on the spot for eternity is one of them. Yellow screen is an other ( 1 out of 20 games in my case ).
Black screen seems to be an other still pretty frequent type of bug.
CTD on drop is an other frequent bug.
All of this may or may not appear as diconnects or even just as somebody standing idle in the base.

#6 Mr Steik

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 05:03 AM

The only bug that stops me from doing anything is the CTD. Mega lag/jaundice vision/4fps/no hud are really annoying but you can still either sit at base and prevent caps OR if you know the difference between something shooting at you and not then you can go out and still kill stuff.

CTD isn't ( for me at least ) all that frequent anymore. I used to have it maybe twice max in a 6 hour period, now maybe once a day or even two.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 05:22 AM

Getting a CTD during drop is a frequent annoyance for me ever since the 27 Nov patch. No idea what is causing it; though it only occurs if I am dropping by myself or with a 4man. I switch to 8man (which I hate, because those matches are utterly boring) I don't crash at all.

So, don't go assuming all "AFKer" are doing it just because they hate you. It could just be the game is broken.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 05:38 AM

I believe that a large portion of AFKers are due to the CTD issue, and it really needs to be FIXED (we should be able to relog within a small window of time and re-enter the match). That being said, I have been in a few matches were my team started 1 short (7-8) and then had 2 AFK while the other team had full comp. Yes it sucked we got rolled, and so I understand the OP's frustration.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:00 AM

View PostThe Basilisk, on 14 December 2012 - 04:58 AM, said:

Stop making whining threads.

Its pretty insulting to be confronted with such a annoying demanding and pseudoentitled manner.

As already stated much much much to much times before:

Your so called afk ers or idlers are mostly simply people with CTDs ( crash to desktops) and or yellow, black or red screens.
You got 1-3 people in every game on both sides in a regular manner with some kind of bug thats preventing them from participating in the game. Frozen controls that turn you on the spot for eternity is one of them. Yellow screen is an other ( 1 out of 20 games in my case ).
Black screen seems to be an other still pretty frequent type of bug.
CTD on drop is an other frequent bug.
All of this may or may not appear as diconnects or even just as somebody standing idle in the base.


Regardless if you CTD or are intentionally AFKing, that is not the point of the main post. Ohnd Reaper said people should not receive rewards if they don't do any damage or capture points in a round. I completely agree with this even if the person CTD'd or have some other issue. A person that didn't contribute anything to the round should not be getting any rewards.

There needs to be a combinations of systems addressing intentional afkers/suiciders such as public statistics, reporting, bigger performance reward incentives and maybe even this system: a game lasts for 5 minutes but you were online only 4 minutes then you get 80% of the credits and xp you would've gotten if you were online all 5 minutes.

Edited by Belkor, 14 December 2012 - 07:01 AM.


#10 ohnd Reaper

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 07:29 PM

Well I did know about the

View Postdeadeye mcduck, on 14 December 2012 - 04:32 AM, said:


but this is a suggestion to help discourage the attempt at exploiting and not just a post to complain about it.

Yes I also understand that a lot of people are still experiencing drop outs, but again this is a post to help discourage people exploiting the game. Because lets face it how many people are going to bother remembering a players name and submitting a ticket.


EDIT*

Forgot to reply to The Basilisk.

This is a suggestions forum, I did not post this to be demanding or annoying I posted it to offer a SUGGESTION to try fix part of the game which I thought needed some attention.

Edited by ohnd Reaper, 15 December 2012 - 07:36 PM.


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Posted 15 December 2012 - 09:07 PM

I have no problem with getting nothing if I crash or disconnect without doing anything. But I'd also say that my mech shouldnt be damaged.

I had two black screen games today. I bailed since you cant do anything. Repairs to my mechs which I assume were shot up by opposing players ran me 45k per match. No earning, no repairs.





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