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[Kcrash]

I do agree with this on what a lot of people have to say.... http://mwomercs.com/...why-games-fail/ (but I would also like to add this)

I cover a lot of games for a certain gaming company to do reviews and this one hit my radar.... at first I was like hell yeah.

Then I got into my first game and was like "uh ok that was quick"....
I have played several matches and they seem to be very very extremely lop-sided in most circumstances.

As a new person to MW and after several games I have already lost interest, I do not usually get bothered with a grind. After all I have done it a billion zillion times, but after a "grind" you usually have something to look forward to. Here there seems to be no such thing besides getting a mech and still having some lump of more work to do before really getting to accomplish anything.

I do not post my opinions on how a company should do their job, I review games as a new player who comes in and what to expect as well as how much fun they can have or how long it will be before getting into the real fun.
Here is an example: In WoW when you hit max level you get to do a lil bit more work, but very soon after hitting max level you get to go into heroic dungeons. Huge keyword there on "VERY SOON AFTER".
World of Tanks, you move up the tier list of the tank you want. You achieved something going through the grind of the list to get the tank you want. Yes it is a grind, but in the end you know what your goal is.


My opinion....
1) There seems to be no real "goal" besides getting a mech when you get the credits, but still have more work to do because you have to load it with additional stuff.
2) LONG HUGE Grind where no clear goal what you get at the end.
3) Very easy to lose focus on what it intended.
4) The matching making system is very off, fights are often over so quick I feel like I am playing a very clunky version of Halo with no respawn.

Just my 2 cents.... I could be wrong. But keep in mind this is just from a person who has just joined the game and has been playing the last 2 days & I already have lost interest.
I am hoping with this post there can be a little bit more clarification, and the mods can do something to correct the situation.

Edited by Kcrash, 16 December 2012 - 07:16 PM.

[Lonestar1771]

INB4 "it's BETA" (a crappy beta)

[8CH Trooper]

Get ready for a firestorm of rage and denial

[Deadoon]

Pretty much correct, we are missing half the game if not more however, no ranks, no factions, no clan, no solaris and no contracts.

[soarra]

how about you play more than 1 day and a few games before you critique a game..

[Deadoon]

soarra, on 16 December 2012 - 07:26 PM, said:

how about you play more than 1 day and a few games before you critique a game..

Dude, he is pointing out, there is no final goal there is no objective, you just play, nothing outside that currently, read his post once again.

[soarra]

Deadoon, on 16 December 2012 - 07:27 PM, said:

Dude, he is pointing out, there is no final goal there is no objective, you just play, nothing outside that currently, read his post once again.

dude its open beta.. read the command chair.. its coming.
its hard to take anyones post serious with 1 post and thats on the day its created.

Edited by soarra, 16 December 2012 - 07:28 PM.

[Deadoon]

soarra, on 16 December 2012 - 07:27 PM, said:

dude its open beta.. read the command chair.. its coming.
its hard to take anyones post serious with 1 post and thats on the day its created.

Yet he points out something that is 100% true as of currently. Troll? Maybe but he is sparking discussion.

Edited by Deadoon, 16 December 2012 - 07:29 PM.

[soarra]

Deadoon, on 16 December 2012 - 07:29 PM, said:

Yet he points out something that is 100% true as of currently. Troll? Maybe but he is sparking discussion.

lol its a fps sim, what do you expect.. A legendary ac/20 , a lance taking on a raid boss.
You kill other mechs, work as a team. And its hard to review this when its it this early stage.
Our goal right now is to TEST.

[Stone Profit]

Kcrash, on 16 December 2012 - 07:14 PM, said:

I do agree with this on what a lot of people have to say.... http://mwomercs.com/...why-games-fail/ (but I would also like to add this)

I cover a lot of games for a certain gaming company to do reviews and this one hit my radar.... at first I was like hell yeah.

Then I got into my first game and was like "uh ok that was quick"....
I have played several matches and they seem to be very very extremely lop-sided in most circumstances.

As a new person to MW and after several games I have already lost interest, I do not usually get bothered with a grind. After all I have done it a billion zillion times, but after a "grind" you usually have something to look forward to. Here there seems to be no such thing besides getting a mech and still having some lump of more work to do before really getting to accomplish anything.

I do not post my opinions on how a company should do their job, I review games as a new player who comes in and what to expect as well as how much fun they can have or how long it will be before getting into the real fun.
Here is an example: In WoW when you hit max level you get to do a lil bit more work, but very soon after hitting max level you get to go into heroic dungeons. Huge keyword there on "VERY SOON AFTER".
World of Tanks, you move up the tier list of the tank you want. You achieved something going through the grind of the list to get the tank you want. Yes it is a grind, but in the end you know what your goal is.


My opinion....
1) There seems to be no real "goal" besides getting a mech when you get the credits, but still have more work to do because you have to load it with additional stuff.
2) LONG HUGE Grind where no clear goal what you get at the end.
3) Very easy to lose focus on what it intended.
4) The matching making system is very off, fights are often over so quick I feel like I am playing a very clunky version of Halo with no respawn.

Just my 2 cents.... I could be wrong. But keep in mind this is just from a person who has just joined the game and has been playing the last 2 days & I already have lost interest.
I am hoping with this post there can be a little bit more clarification, and the mods can do something to correct the situation.

So in between 7pm when you created your account and 714pm when you posted this, you played several matches and got a complete understanding of the game. .. sounds false to me. And to state the game is incomplete. .. yeah, that's what happens with a (gasp) beta. Next time try not to fail so hard when you lie.

[xRaeder]

soarra, on 16 December 2012 - 07:27 PM, said:

dude its open beta.. read the command chair.. its coming.
its hard to take anyones post serious with 1 post and thats on the day its created.

Oh... the stuff they haven't talked about since August? Right...

[p4r4g0n]

@OP You are not alone in thinking the new player experience sucks. Having said that, a partial upgrade / revamp (?) for NPE is slated for Dec 18th and the final upgrade / revamp is slated for some time in February.

Suggest you check out the Command Chair sub forum for an overview of where the game is at and where it is heading. Specifically, check out the Features and Content road map.

As has been stated often, this is an Open Beta in the classic sense i.e. it is incomplete and personally, any review of MWO in its current state would not constitute a fair review of the game in its entirety (as envisaged).

[Irreverence]

Always the same bugs though, or different variations of the same bugs. Just once, I'd like to see a multiple mech detonation bug.

[The Exiled]

soarra, on 16 December 2012 - 07:27 PM, said:

dude its open beta.. read the command chair.. its coming.
its hard to take anyones post serious with 1 post and thats on the day its created.

If his view represents the experience of the majotity of gamers that try this game then it is in trouble, a day or two is more than enough time to judge whether or not you want to continue and enjoyed the experience or not. for a game that is still quite new i have admit i see very few 0 xp mechs in a typical match, at this stage the queues should be full of them

[Kcrash]

Deadoon, on 16 December 2012 - 07:29 PM, said:

Yet he points out something that is 100% true as of currently. Troll? Maybe but he is sparking discussion.

Considering I have played more Betas then I care to list, there is always a goal.
Smite....a clear goal
Forge, even in Alpha there was a goal
Shall I continue the list?.....

Either case, I am no troll. If I was to troll, I would have made a lot of outstanding blatant insults against them and people.
I clearly posted my thoughts on "HOW" new people who would be coming into this game would be looking at it.

I want every game to achieve something, I want every game to excel and get customers or else we would be limited to a select few and have nothing of variety which is very boring.

This game may have someplace to go, but people are more apt to get bored and move on if they have no interest.

Stone Profit, on 16 December 2012 - 07:37 PM, said:

So in between 7pm when you created your account and 714pm when you posted this, you played several matches and got a complete understanding of the game. .. sounds false to me. And to state the game is incomplete. .. yeah, that's what happens with a (gasp) beta. Next time try not to fail so hard when you lie.

Hate to tell ya, but you are way off on your times I have had this account for at least 2 days. Nice try though troll.....
Anycase I know when I created the account and I know when I started playing.

As someone else has stated, I look at it from a person who plays this game to see what it is like. Not a person who comes to play and be dedication but to merely check the game and see if it can hold my interest.

Yeah this is beta, yah there is a lot more coming out...... But most people will not even bother look at the forums or the youtube videos as I have.

Dedication & Serious people read the forums / watch youtube video guides / experiment with different loads. New people and casual people..... DO NOT.

Edited by Kcrash, 16 December 2012 - 07:46 PM.

[soarra]

The Exiled, on 16 December 2012 - 07:40 PM, said:

If his view represents the experience of the majotity of gamers that try this game then it is in trouble, a day or two is more than enough time to judge whether or not you want to continue and enjoyed the experience or not. for a game that is still quite new i have admit i see very few 0 xp mechs in a typical match, at this stage the queues should be full of them

a day or 2 i would be fine with.. A 15 minute old account probably played 2 games.

Kcrash, on 16 December 2012 - 07:41 PM, said:

Considering I have played more Betas then I care to list, there is always a goal.
Smite....a clear goal
Forge, even in Alpha there was a goal
Shall I continue the list?.....

Either case, I am no troll. If I was to troll, I would have made a lot of outstanding blatant insults against them and people.
I clearly posted my thoughts on "HOW" new people who would be coming into this game would be looking at it.

I want every game to achieve something, I want every game to excel and get customers or else we would be limited to a select few and have nothing of variety which is very boring.

This game may have someplace to go, but people are more apt to get bored and move on if they have no interest.

you cant compare this game to smite or forge, which are both crap. I have beta'd games for over 20 years, maybe more going back to bbs games i used to help with..

[Deadoon]

Kcrash, on 16 December 2012 - 07:41 PM, said:

Considering I have played more Betas then I care to list, there is always a goal.
Smite....a clear goal
Forge, even in Alpha there was a goal
Shall I continue the list?.....

Either case, I am no troll. If I was to troll, I would have made a lot of outstanding blatant insults against them and people.
I clearly posted my thoughts on "HOW" new people who would be coming into this game would be looking at it.

I want every game to achieve something, I want every game to excel and get customers or else we would be limited to a select few and have nothing of variety which is very boring.

This game may have someplace to go, but people are more apt to get bored and move on if they have no interest.

I wasn't inferring you were a troll, I was merely stating that even if you were you were not creating the intended effect.

And I agree, this game is very basic right now, like vanilla ice cream.

Currently the only expressed goal is to do the map objective or destroy all opposition, a very basic goal. The support systems for said goal becoming interesting are not yet available or implemented.

Currently the game seems closer to a paid alpha or a framework test.

Edited by Deadoon, 16 December 2012 - 07:48 PM.

[soarra]

Kcrash, on 16 December 2012 - 07:41 PM, said:

Considering I have played more Betas then I care to list, there is always a goal.
Smite....a clear goal
Forge, even in Alpha there was a goal
Shall I continue the list?.....

Either case, I am no troll. If I was to troll, I would have made a lot of outstanding blatant insults against them and people.
I clearly posted my thoughts on "HOW" new people who would be coming into this game would be looking at it.

I want every game to achieve something, I want every game to excel and get customers or else we would be limited to a select few and have nothing of variety which is very boring.

This game may have someplace to go, but people are more apt to get bored and move on if they have no interest.




Hate to tell ya, but you are way off on your times I have had this account for at least 2 days. Nice try though troll.....
Anycase I know when I created the account and I know when I started playing.

As someone else has stated, I look at it from a person who plays this game to see what it is like. Not a person who comes to play and be dedication but to merely check the game and see if it can hold my interest.

Yeah this is beta, yah there is a lot more coming out...... But most people will not even bother look at the forums or the youtube videos as I have.

Dedication & Serious people read the forums / watch youtube video guides / experiment with different loads. New people and casual people..... DO NOT.

i think that says today.. so try again.

Edited by soarra, 16 December 2012 - 07:50 PM.

[Kcrash]

Deadoon, on 16 December 2012 - 07:46 PM, said:

I wasn't inferring you were a troll, I was merely stating that even if you were you were not creating the intended effect.

And I agree, this game is very basic right now, like vanilla ice cream.

Currently the only expressed goal is to do the map objective or destroy all opposition, a very basic goal. The support systems for said goal becoming interesting are not yet available or implemented.

Not talking about you, talking to soarra whose ******** and clearly just likes to troll who obviously also can not even hold a decent discussion.
The forum name is 7pm, I can assure you the account is 3 days old and I have been playing for 2.
But sure roflmao, 2 games and a full typed post I did in 14 minutes. But then again I guess it is hard for you to use your brain and do the match.

Time to move on..... Placing Soarra on ignore cause obviously can not hold a discussion with maturity and I have better things to do. Deadoon I will be messaging you

soarra, on 16 December 2012 - 07:49 PM, said:

i think that says today.. so try again.

Obviously I have proved myself right....FOR THE FORUM YOU *****...

[Deadoon]

soarra, on 16 December 2012 - 07:49 PM, said:

i think that says today.. so try again.

His account age is meaningless if what he says is accurate, get over it, you having a founders title does not make you better in any sense of the word.

Woo, you have a member since august, mine is march who the flip cares.

Edited by Deadoon, 16 December 2012 - 07:54 PM.