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[Djarid]

...and for those that can't tell, yes I'm being sarcastic.

This is a whinge post so you can stop reading here if you don't like whinging.

The new patch blows! There is no point stopping a cap if you are chewing into someone, you've managed to turn assault mode into a deathmatch only mode. bravo!

Also, thanks for screwing your loyal supporters, my founders and premium bonuses have been more than halved. Instead of a regular 40k+ from founders bonus I now get 8-15k. And yes for all you wondering, I have always done a full R&R before.

I generally look on the bright side of all the ***** thrown out in recent patches, after all, even the bad things have to be tested. I just hope the R&R and reward system in this patch is a Christmas joke and is going to be at least reversed if not heavily revised in the next patch.

once again, thanks for the wonderful Christmas prezzie PGI (now go fix it!)

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

Least this patch did good things on its own merit. The last one did NOTHING good for this game. Sadly we're still suffering from that one because they refuse to balance change ECM or BAP. They went off to address other stuff instead.

[New Breed]

Founders thanks for removing R&R. I can actually play my founders atlas and make money on it now. Instead of having to use a commando to make the most cash.

[Axeman1]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

[Kraven Kor]

We will see how things go.

I'm not so wholly committed to pre-judging every change that I won't try it or whatever.

I do have my fears as to how the removal of RnR will affect the game dynamics.

We shall see.

[Dagger6T6]

Djarid, on 18 December 2012 - 03:10 PM, said:

my founders and premium bonuses have been more than halved. Instead of a regular 40k+ from founders bonus I now get 8-15k.

well that is still 8-15k more than someone who is not a Founder is getting... free money is free money... the Founder's bonus was always a percentage based bonus... I for one knowing that this was beta realized that amount of cbill return could change depending on game mechanics

I know it feels like money out of your pocket but you must look at the big picture

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

Ghost Bear, on 18 December 2012 - 03:14 PM, said:

Founders thanks for removing R&R. I can actually play my founders atlas and make money on it now. Instead of having to use a commando to make the most cash.

Problem was that the economy was so messed up, you brought in more for a lighter Mech than with a Heavier one. This was even more true for piloting Trials. Now all that crap is gone. We'll actually make good money again in the Mechs WE want to pilot.

I'd rather keep RnR, but only in a logical sense that doesn't have all the problems it had before. Either fix it, or scrap it. They went with B there, so I say good riddance.

[xRaeder]

Djarid, on 18 December 2012 - 03:10 PM, said:

...and for those that can't tell, yes I'm being sarcastic.

This is a whinge post so you can stop reading here if you don't like whinging.

The new patch blows! There is no point stopping a cap if you are chewing into someone, you've managed to turn assault mode into a deathmatch only mode. bravo!

Also, thanks for screwing your loyal supporters, my founders and premium bonuses have been more than halved. Instead of a regular 40k+ from founders bonus I now get 8-15k. And yes for all you wondering, I have always done a full R&R before.

I generally look on the bright side of all the ***** thrown out in recent patches, after all, even the bad things have to be tested. I just hope the R&R and reward system in this patch is a Christmas joke and is going to be at least reversed if not heavily revised in the next patch.

once again, thanks for the wonderful Christmas prezzie PGI (now go fix it!)

Yeah it's dumb. Conquest with no respawns = pointless. All it does is prevent the base cap wins. In fact I think I'm going to go back to Assault mode as "Conquest" is stupid.

[Mack1]

I have just played 3 or my 5 mechs and won all games, I used to get 240k C-Bills on an average win on my founders and the repair was always around 27k Now I got 140k for winning, so let's say 113k if repairs were still around so that is a loss of around 100k C-Bills per win. Nice kick in the balls to your financial backers who were willing to throw money at your brief.

[Xando]

you paid for 25% bonus on the founders and you're still getting 25% on the founders. Just have to change play styles from just straight winning and kills to assists and damage done.

[Axeman1]

Mack1, on 18 December 2012 - 03:43 PM, said:

I have just played 3 or my 5 mechs and won all games, I used to get 240k C-Bills on an average win on my founders and the repair was always around 27k Now I got 140k for winning, so let's say 113k if repairs were still around so that is a loss of around 100k C-Bills per win. Nice kick in the balls to your financial backers who were willing to throw money at your brief.

Umadbro?

[TB Freelancer]

Djarid, I can't help but to ask...

...have you even played more than a single round before blasting a half cocked opinion on the forums?

Every patch that comes out and some of you are freaking out before it ever comes to pass, then.0000000000000000000000000001 nanoseconds after your first match you come here to ***** and moan....


...maybe you ought to just shut the hell up, play the game for a few days and see enough iterations of how a match plays out and what the rewards are so you have some actual knowledge to say something intelligent. Because right now all I'm seeing is baseless garbage.

Edited by TB Freelancer, 18 December 2012 - 04:47 PM.

[Stargazer86]

You can't even paint Founders mechs. =c This makes me sad. Really. All I wanted to do was paint my 4G, but I can't. Was perfectly willing to give them more money for camo and paint, but they apparently don't want to take it.

[Ryolacap]

Yea thnks for making every player have to play now, everyone loved when 2-3 mech never moved or blew up when the round started, i will really miss those days.

Thanks for the last patch, which added a piece of equipment, that made teams more important, and now not every other mech is a streakcat or just sitting back launching hundreds of missles and stealing kills. All that were getting 900dmg and 5-6 kills every game. It was so much better when you saw no enemy, just tons of missle flying through the air killing everrything, without ever having to aim.

In the next patch, I expect you to come to my house and retro fit my car with legs. How many hard points does my camrey have?

Edited by Ryolacap, 18 December 2012 - 05:10 PM.

[Ascendent]

Djarid, on 18 December 2012 - 03:10 PM, said:

Also, thanks for screwing your loyal supporters, my founders and premium bonuses have been more than halved. Instead of a regular 40k+ from founders bonus I now get 8-15k. And yes for all you wondering, I have always done a full R&R before...

Since now the bonuses are essentially applied to the average net (after RnR) income of the previous model, it is having an impact. A few had estimated that before premium was actually resulting in roughly a 75% cbill boost. Many threads were discussing this before the patch as a potential unwanted consequence. There is room for optimism though. Consider that the previous economy had been reached during closed beta after much trial and error, and the developers were happy with the numbers. In addition its no good for the developers for premium (and hero bonus) not to be very attractive. Who would buy MC for it then. I hope you and others will join me in bring the subject to light for the developers, in the suggestion and feedback threads, after testing so it can be addressed, and hopefully have premium, founders, and hero bonuses returned to their former glory.

[Glythe]

I just want to say I was worried about the RnR removal too as a nerf of my income. I was regularly bringing in 275K with my founders cat with no rearm costs and repairs were usually 20k.

I was pretty certain this patch was going to nerf income....

[UXB]

So far, I like it, EXCEPT that there should a bigger bonus for taking the objective.

[Wired]

Yea, in the long run an extra 8k isn't worth paying for, and certainly not with these MC prices.

[Arparso]

Well, you paid for a percentage bonus and not an absolute bonus. You're still getting that percentage and run home with much more money than any free player... yet it never is enough, isn't it?

[Ghogiel]

I made a million cbills in 10 matches.