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#1 Hellion

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:16 PM

Can someone tell me why I'm not having fun any more?

- I have run and am still running every weight class.
- I have a new stalker with multiple set ups
- I have some mechs with ECM some without some with Tags, BAP case systems xl and standard engines bla bla bla I use everything on multiple different mechs multiple set-ups.
- I run with groups and solo
- I enjoy brawling the most but I don't mind sniping or using an LRM boat.
- I think the hit boxes on the stalker are a little messed up as in over a thousand matches I have never seen a mech that needs to be under 10% to die ...... consistently !

Other than that one point with stalkers I have no real gripes. I really don't have an opinion on ECM's or LRM's or Streaks.

So why do I find myself hating this game so much after the last patch? Is it the stalker? The dynamic maybe has changed where fortune used to favour the bold and now its a bunch of people standing all back of the bus waiting for the other team to make a mistake. I don't care much for the new night map or conquest either ... Its a little sad really. I LOVE Mechwarrior but I don't think I want to play anymore. I'm not having fun ...... What happened ????

#2 Deadoon

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:19 PM

The stalker has an hourglass shaped center hitbox, the other parts are the side torsos and the arms are indestructible tiny things(understandably so) The center due to it's odd shape makes it difficult to hit, despite it's enormous size, while the side torsos get hit far more often.

#3 Odins Fist

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:19 PM

View PostHellion, on 20 December 2012 - 09:16 PM, said:

Can someone tell me why I'm not having fun any more?

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A.D.H.D. Perhaps...??? :)

#4 Broceratops

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:19 PM

maybe you're just burned out. take a break until matchmaking is up

#5 Hellion

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:23 PM

View PostDeadoon, on 20 December 2012 - 09:19 PM, said:

The stalker has an hourglass shaped center hitbox, the other parts are the side torsos and the arms are indestructible tiny things(understandably so) The center due to it's odd shape makes it difficult to hit, despite it's enormous size, while the side torsos get hit far more often.



That's very interesting. It makes it hard to brawl with say an atlas as the atlas cant out flank the stalker. So because of the hit boxes the atlas will lose every time .... Not sure if that's a good thing..

View PostBroceratops, on 20 December 2012 - 09:19 PM, said:

maybe you're just burned out. take a break until matchmaking is up



Your probably right ...

#6 Sean von Steinike

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:25 PM

Are you one of those people that plays/played for hours on end? You might want to mix up your play time with other things. Keeps it fresh.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:26 PM

I've been seeing a lot of behavior lately that indicates aimbotting since the last patch. Combine that with the sync drop cheating and pugs in this game are no fun.

Edited by Inviticus, 20 December 2012 - 09:26 PM.


#8 Tempered

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:28 PM

Seasonal depression.

Seriously though, I don't find the game as fun either. I'm pretty sure it is due to ecm and the way that it changes the game.

Edited by Tempered, 20 December 2012 - 09:30 PM.


#9 Hellion

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:30 PM

View PostSean von Steinike, on 20 December 2012 - 09:25 PM, said:

Are you one of those people that plays/played for hours on end? You might want to mix up your play time with other things. Keeps it fresh.



naw I don't play every day. a few hours maybe on a week night and a few on the weekend.

View PostInviticus, on 20 December 2012 - 09:26 PM, said:

I've been seeing a lot of behavior lately that indicates aimbotting since the last patch. Combine that with the sync drop cheating and pugs in this game are no fun.



It really funny you mentioned this. I have seen a half dozen or so cases of people being 1 shot at range just in the last few days ,....

#10 shadowrwolf

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:30 PM

View PostInviticus, on 20 December 2012 - 09:26 PM, said:

I've been seeing a lot of behavior lately that indicates aimbotting since the last patch. Combine that with the sync drop cheating and pugs in this game are no fun.



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#11 Sickocrow

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:32 PM

I've just had enough of the shocking MM and the huge fire delay caused by the anti-cheat system. To hit a moderate fast moving mech is guesswork at best for me.

Guess I'll have to stick to WoT or start playing PS2 on a local server, because this is a hopeless cause right now.

Edited by Sickocrow, 20 December 2012 - 09:34 PM.


#12 Wizard Steve

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:33 PM

I too loathe the new night map, conquest mode, the changes to rewards (I like the changes that shaft the AFKers, but not the changes that shaft everyone else) and the removal of repair and rearm.

I have managed to recover some of the old joy by setting my launch button to assault only.

My problem with this patch is that the net effect of all the changes has been to dumb down the gameplay. Where we once had a subtle, intelligent shooter that required some finesse, we now have yet another team death match slugfest.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:35 PM

I don't know what you mean at all. Getting killed by Stalkers running straight at your Atlas and Raven 3Ls spamming you with Streak SRMs while they watch some Youtube brings a whole new level of skill and fun to the game for me.

#14 Carnivoris

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:38 PM

I'm enjoying the game more than I ever have. Conquest has provided some new, challenging combat. I'm REALLY enjoying my new Stalker, even though I die way too much and too quickly. I gotta get used to piloting an assault mech.. I'm still getting used to BAP but I like it. It adds a new level of challenge to the game and I enjoy that.

I quite like the new night map, also. It's pretty. I normally use heat vision instead of the night vision, which I think is a bit washed out and not as useful, in all honesty. I wish we'd get some new maps, though. NEW new, not just rehashed maps we've already played a million times.

I think a lot of the people that are getting pissy about things are just that type of person. Oh, boo hoo, this isn't JUST like it is in canon or whatever. Blahblahblah. I don't care. I'm having fun blowing up giant robots with other giant robots.

#15 Harmatia

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:43 PM

View PostWizard Steve, on 20 December 2012 - 09:33 PM, said:

I too loathe the new night map, conquest mode, the changes to rewards (I like the changes that shaft the AFKers, but not the changes that shaft everyone else) and the removal of repair and rearm.

I have managed to recover some of the old joy by setting my launch button to assault only.

My problem with this patch is that the net effect of all the changes has been to dumb down the gameplay. Where we once had a subtle, intelligent shooter that required some finesse, we now have yet another team death match slugfest.

How has the most recent patch dumped MWO down?

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:50 PM

View PostHarmatia, on 20 December 2012 - 09:43 PM, said:

How has the most recent patch dumped MWO down?

Not sure how/why but all of a sudden, we have 16 mechs running at each other, not using any kind of tactics nor use of cover and pounding the crap out of each other until one team is dead. I'm not seeing much in the way of sneak attacks, flanking, hit & run, scouting, communications, capping or anything else that made the game interesting. At least not in PUGs. Assault seems to have faired better. I've turned off conquest already.

#17 Thorqemada

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 09:52 PM

Do you think the Stalker is to durable or to weak?

The Secret to kill a Stalker is to flank him, backstab him, the Stalker has weaksauce sides (L/R Torso) and one gone side means 50% less firepower for the Stalker.
It has a weak rear also and probably weak legs.
I had to spend all 72 point of Armor on the legs bcs i got legged so often so early while half my firepower is usually gone quite early.
Never approach a healthy Stalker frontal - that brings nothing but death.

Edited by Thorqemada, 20 December 2012 - 09:53 PM.


#18 Harmatia

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 10:08 PM

View PostWizard Steve, on 20 December 2012 - 09:50 PM, said:

Not sure how/why but all of a sudden, we have 16 mechs running at each other, not using any kind of tactics nor use of cover and pounding the crap out of each other until one team is dead. I'm not seeing much in the way of sneak attacks, flanking, hit & run, scouting, communications, capping or anything else that made the game interesting. At least not in PUGs. Assault seems to have faired better. I've turned off conquest already.

I would say that has more to do with players maximizing (or abusing) the system to achieve the highest return of CB and CP, rather than the last patch making the game more dumb. A lot of those things you write about I've experienced on a regular basis since I joined closed beta back in August. I don't like how a lot of those games go, but I also don't think it's anything new.

#19 Jalak Bali

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 10:44 PM

I have this odd feeling in my left leg. It's right after the new patch came up. Tell me dev, why did you release a patch that gives me pain in my left leg? Also I noticed the Stalker walks funny and they have funny legs, like they have normal legs and feet and they're walking backwards. I also can't sit behind a rock and press a button to launch missiles all day long like before. ECM is forcing me to come out and look at the targets. But they might see me and it frightens me. This game is no longer fun.

#20 anonymous175

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 10:45 PM

Take a break, bake a cake.

I'm just waiting for more stuff.





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