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[Rex Budman]

Yay for graphical wow and kudos on the mechanics of the environment... That's it...

What a piece of Arcade crap. Side strafing mechs? How much do they weigh, like 40kg? What machine can do that? Even though this is the year 3050 in the MWO world, at least it has realism!

Hawken doesn't even have simple physics, like Intertia. The fact this mechanical beast can start, stop and strafe with ease is just rediculous.

Imo, Hawken is a game that won't last. It is just Doda with mechs.

MWO FTW, Imo

[zmeul]

that's exactly why will last

[Vermaxx]

Hawken is a F2P title with accessibility to the twitch shooter crowd, and clever gimmicks to separate you from your money.

MWO is a F2P title with limited accessibility to anyone, limited pull to anyone but original MW fans, and few clever gimmicks to separate you from your money. There are gimmicks, but they are crude and obvious and entirely underwhelming once you look at them. Except christmas lights and the classy mech.

Hawken will outlast MWO by the sheer number of turnover players it can generate. Look at Tribes Ascend, it didn't crash despite being arguably pay to win and annoying the original Tribes fans. It isn't doing great, but it is still selling.

[Rex Budman]

Perhaps, perhaps not... I much rather this game, and no I'm not a TT player. TT existed before I could actually give a damn.

[IIIuminaughty]

Hawken is good in its own way and MWO is just great all around, a lil problems here and there but nothing super serious.

Edited by StrataDragoon, 20 December 2012 - 08:16 PM.

[Sir Burpalot21]

There's nothing wrong with a game centered around more agile mechs.
It's just different. Just like how there are different types of FPSs, RPGs and RTSs.
Please do not act like an uncivilized fanboy. Nobody likes that.

That being said. I was hoping Hawken would be closer to Phantom Crash, an old favorite of mine few years ago. However I feel it's customization lacks in comparison to that and the combat feels less varied.

Also, the General Discussion board is totally not the place for this discussion.

[Karyudo ds]

Rex Budman, on 20 December 2012 - 07:57 PM, said:

What a piece of Arcade crap. Side strafing mechs? How much do they weigh, like 40kg? What machine can do that?

An F-22. (Well they are pretty maneuverable...)

Honestly if a mech were intended to be up that close I would expect it to be able to move, though of course if you want to be realistic I'm sure everyone in the future will have aim-bots anyway.

The game seemed alright when I played it, but yeah it's pretty much just a shooter skinned with mechs but that junky/walled city sort of look to the environment was interesting.

[The Cheese]

I think you missed the part where it's actually fun as hell to play.

This is good too, but a different kind of good.

[MadcatX]

I don't feel like starting up a whole MW:O vs Hawken debate, as long as MW:O sticks around and continues to improve, I'm happy.

As for Hawken, it's a faster-paced game, and to those who prefer that style all the power to them. But Vermaxx's post does illustrate a good point in regards to what type of games people play these days.

I played it for actually a decent amount of time until the novelty wore off. The biggest advantages I noticed was the in-game tutorial and a slightly friendlier fanbase.

[Stone Wall]

Both games are fun.

[zmeul]

Rex Budman, on 20 December 2012 - 08:08 PM, said:

Perhaps, perhaps not... I much rather this game, and no I'm not a TT player. TT existed before I could actually give a damn.

I'm not a TT player either, I also don't play HAWKEN
but that doesn't mean HAWKEN will die

Edited by zmeul, 20 December 2012 - 08:18 PM.

[Pygar]

I think Hawken ends up being "meh" for me as much because of playing Armored Core as much as because of Mechwarrior....it just seems like a weird in between of the two games that just isn't keeping my attention span.

[Karyudo ds]

Planetside 2 also has it's moments. Don't visit it's forums though if you don't like these.

[Thirdstar]

You can debate the stylization and combat physics of both games but to inject any discussion about realism into the issue is pretty silly. Mechs, whether from MWO or Hawken are actually quite impossible and outside the realm of realism.

Edited by Thirdstar, 20 December 2012 - 08:23 PM.

[anonymous175]

They sent out 5000 mechbux or something today so that warranted a reinstall since I uninstalled during Alpha.

I really like their frontend now. Has menu music, full screen makes it feel like a full on PC game since everything is built around that, so the UI flow is nice and intuitive. They don't have custom levels of settings, bout same as MWO, but there's a FOV slider, thats nice. They have a little tutorial girl that shows what each menu thing does, and although it was overkill, I can how it can help a subset of players. And then there's the actual tutorial. All in due time I hope.

Hopefully the new year's update of the MWO UI brings it to this format. It's a nice level of polish. I think someone devlike said they're going to dump this window mode thing and its due for a super sexy overhaul. Don't skimp on the details boys!

As far as the Hawken game itself though, dropped into a match, pfffffffft I can't play this. And that's about as far as I got again. Just not my game after playing MWO.

So all in all, Hawken is the nice high school sweetheart you bring home to mom and dad because she's the safe choice and MWO is the big booty white girl you cheat on her with.

So hope 2013 brings out the big guns cause its this mech or no mech for me.

Edited by Zeno Scarborough, 20 December 2012 - 08:28 PM.

[shintakie]

Rex Budman, on 20 December 2012 - 07:57 PM, said:

Yay for graphical wow and kudos on the mechanics of the environment... That's it...

What a piece of Arcade crap. Side strafing mechs? How much do they weigh, like 40kg? What machine can do that? Even though this is the year 3050 in the MWO world, at least it has realism!

Hawken doesn't even have simple physics, like Intertia. The fact this mechanical beast can start, stop and strafe with ease is just rediculous.

Imo, Hawken is a game that won't last. It is just Doda with mechs.

MWO FTW, Imo

Realistically speakin mechs would never ever be fielded by any military ever because of how incredibly cost ineffective they are, especially when compared to much cheaper alternatives.

The aerospace fighter alone completely negates mechs to a fairly pathetic level. Heck, Infantry with a simple rocket launcher would be far more than a match for any mech.

[Sir Burpalot21]

shintakie, on 20 December 2012 - 08:26 PM, said:

Realistically speakin mechs would never ever be fielded by any military ever because of how incredibly cost ineffective they are, especially when compared to much cheaper alternatives.

The aerospace fighter alone completely negates mechs to a fairly pathetic level. Heck, Infantry with a simple rocket launcher would be far more than a match for any mech.

Not to mention limitations such as the square-cube law

[Felicitatem Parco]

I'm moving this thread to the Off Topic section of the forums, since this is a discussion about a different game.

The MW:O General Discussion is meant for generally discussing MW:O, specifically, even though it's called "General Discussion." Generally discussing other stuff, like other games or comparing games to each other, should take place in Off Topic.

Thanks for understanding

[Critical Fumble]

Frankly, a lot of half-baked crap can shamble along like a zombie and "succeed" in the internet era. Predicting what internet fads will last and which will go up in flames is like trying to predict the weather with a magic 8-ball.

I really don't think MW:O is going to fail out of hand, the less than stunning response to the game has more to do with the technical issues and a lack of good newbie training than anything severely limiting about the game design itself. I keep playing because I enjoy the game itself, not as a die hard BT fan - I only have a passing familiarity with TT I picked up from my brother, MechCommander 2, and some vague memories of the SNES version of MechWarrior.

[KharnZor]

Rex Budman, on 20 December 2012 - 07:57 PM, said:

Yay for graphical wow and kudos on the mechanics of the environment... That's it...

What a piece of Arcade crap. Side strafing mechs? How much do they weigh, like 40kg? What machine can do that? Even though this is the year 3050 in the MWO world, at least it has realism!

Hawken doesn't even have simple physics, like Intertia. The fact this mechanical beast can start, stop and strafe with ease is just rediculous.

Imo, Hawken is a game that won't last. It is just Doda with mechs.

MWO FTW, Imo

So, you havent played the game and came to that conclusion? Fantastic.
I've played it enough to know that the game has one thing and one thing only in common with MWO and that is both games use the word 'mech' in there somewhere.
As for the mechs in hawken themselves i was pretty dissapointed until i stopped comparing it to MWO annd started playing it for what it was, a twitch shooter with some interesting mechanics like boost strafing (kinda reminded me of mecha anime).
Its not a bad game really. I do however prefer mechwarrior.
I could continure but its hot and i got bourbon and i cbf.
have a wonderfull appocolypse day all