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[SkyCake]

ecm easy to beat, teamwork, dont boat lrms or streaks... elementary really

[Mikhalio]

To help out new players looking to break ECM:

TAG does break ecm, however you must paint the target. The 'paint' usually lasts for about 5 to 10 seconds. In that time, feel free to fire away. A good way to test this proof of TAG does indeed help out and break ECM is to use a fast mech, and paint a few targets in a 125 km/h mech build.
Once you get the hang of this, put the TAG on the same torso slot as your missile racks. You will paint the same rate as your volleys will launch at.

Does this help LRM boats ? No, but then again, ECM is made to exactly counter fire & forget play styles. To help out team mates where LRM is at an inherent disadvantage, this is why NARC was invented.

Hopefully this is the last 'NERF ECM' thread we see for another 25 hours.

[Kaspirikay]

Guys ecm is balanced because you, too, can buy a DDC and put ecm on it.

[Lykaon]

Eradhain, on 25 December 2012 - 05:09 PM, said:

Nothing counters ECM. Streaks are officially useless against anything even slightly ECMy. ECM is so utterly overpowered and unbalanced that it isn't even funny. I have nothing against the ECM concept, I like the idea of there being something that can mess with your sensors, but in its current state: don't even bother with Streaks. I've officially retired my Streakcat cause it cannot do ANYTHING anymore ever in any fight.

Well if it means no streakcats I will take OP'd ECM.The only problem is people just migrated streak platforms over to Commandos and Ravens.

If you havn't figured it out yet the way to play is streaks AND ECM and preferably on the same mech.

Before ECM hands down the most overpowered and abusive mech design was the A1 Catapult steakcat.Streaks were so mindlessly effective that no other weapon system needed to exist.Pile more streaks with more armor and as much speed as possible and win by virtue of the weapon characteristics not he gunner's skill.

But fear not the Commando 2D packs enough streaks to dish gaussrifle damage in each salvo and it has it's own ECM.Sure it's only half the firepower of a streakcat but the commando has the ECM and a laser.An invisable assassin with a backup weapon.And if you happen to get your streaks jammed toggle ECM to counter and spam your snubnosed gaussrifle with torso seeking ammo to victory.

Just remember it wasn't YOU who won the day it was the streaks.

[Lykaon]

IronEagle, on 25 December 2012 - 05:47 PM, said:

vs a streak cat I had a fair chance regardless of the mech I was using. vs an ECM streak Raven..forget it

Huh? ...

let me get this straight you felt you had better odds fighting a 65 ton mech with chassis capped armor and speed and jump capability that also packed a 30 point alpha that ALWAYS hit and almost ALWAYS hit your CT.

Yet a 35 ton mech with half the armor and a third the streaks will kill you all the time?

Just because it's faster and has an ECM?

Do you have under 25 fps or a ping over 200?

if no then you need to work on your gunnery skills.I recomend trying a nice little trainer I use to train gunnery on recruits.

K2 Catapult 300XL engine 20 DHS maxed armor and 4 large lasers.

Edited by Lykaon, 26 December 2012 - 01:43 AM.

[Timelordwho]

Lykaon, on 26 December 2012 - 01:42 AM, said:

Huh? ...

let me get this straight you felt you had better odds fighting a 65 ton mech with chassis capped armor and speed and jump capability that also packed a 30 point alpha that ALWAYS hit and almost ALWAYS hit your CT.

Yet a 35 ton mech with half the armor and a third the streaks will kill you all the time?

Just because it's faster and has an ECM?

Do you have under 25 fps or a ping over 200?

if no then you need to work on your gunnery skills.I recomend trying a nice little trainer I use to train gunnery on recruits.

K2 Catapult 300XL engine 20 DHS maxed armor and 4 large lasers.

Yes. ECM is that strong. I've played it from the raven 3L, D-DC, non ECM light, and most other weight/role viewpoints.

It's just that strong.

[Papewaio]

Newb, In Australia, Ping of 290ms if I'm lucky
Still cored two Raven 3Ls in a single match using a Commando... A 1B with only lasers.

I have less then 0.3 kill/death general ratio I assume that Ravens either are:
A) Not as deadly as advertised
As a meta game preferred weapon of choice also piloted by an array of fellow noobs.
C) My playstyle might be the perfect counter... Gawd help those who use it against anyone else.

ECMs are a counter against missiles and really only great within 180m.
To counter ping, my direct weapons are 3 medium pulse lasers. Why? Because even with a 300ms ping if the opponent fills the screen you will hit.

When I can afford a bigger mech I will get it. My bet is to counter lag shield is to use TAG, which will incidentally help my team mates LRMs.

[Falconic]

This is what makes the Raven 3L so powerful. Why in the world will TAG not work under 180... I ditched owning heavies and assaults with srm6s for streak 2s on my X-5 so that I can core all these OP Raven pilots. Using 2 TAGs 2 Large Lasers and 2 Streaks I thought it may be possible only to find out that my streaks won't FN work because Tag doesn't work while ECM is running circles around you.

Want to counter a good 3L pilot? Don't be a Light or Cicada and bring HUGE guns to the fight.

That is ridiculous that tag works better halfway across a map than right on a mech.

Make the ECM pilot have to disrupt, at least, to achieve this close range invinsiblitly! I wouldn't mind them being instapopped by lrm fire for trying.

[Rayah]

PiemasterXL, on 25 December 2012 - 05:10 PM, said:

Oh god, what will we do without our streakcats!

Reconfigure them into Splatcats...