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[Icaragua]

Darius Freedmen, on 22 May 2012 - 07:43 PM, said:

So those that pay to fund the further development of the game are not allowed to have stuff that the freeloaders can't?

Not at all of what's being discussed.


Anyway, given how the staff have communicated and listened to the eager fans (ie. us) I'm sure they are looking for the most balance. What MW is known for is how a sacrifice with a great pilot can be just as great as a bazooka with a great pilot. Even if they accidentally release a overly powerful weapon with low weight, the typical PTW player is usually more reliant on that weapon. A good enough pilot in my theory would be able to overtake, either by skill or teamwork. I'm very unconvinced that any premmy item they release would be terribly unbalancing. Sometimes less is more after all.

Plus, 80 USD value on in game cash is worth the 60 alone, let alone the other perks. The people, here and now, are the most likely the people who will stay and continue to support the game. We are the people who are up to date and anxiously waiting, not to mention wanting to help in the development of this game. It'd be a hard sell if they were to not notice this post and many others that will soon follow about the need for balance.

Edited by Icaragua, 22 May 2012 - 07:53 PM.

[SweetJackal]

Karyudo-ds, on 22 May 2012 - 07:43 PM, said:

Just because you can mount a missile instead of an auto cannon is hardly P2W. Unless the setups were really cheese supportive, but you have weight/criticals still to deal with. Less of course they bypassed that. That wouldn't be very MW though. PGI seems to get what MW is so far.

Sorry, not buying that. Think about what it would be like if they had a founder mech being an Atlas that dropped the 3 ballistic hardpoints in it's torso for 3 energy and 3 missile hardpoints? Hardpoints need to be carefully balanced because they are the real limiter to optimization (BT TT rules for reconfiguring by rebuilding is flat out broken when you start optimizing to the ton in a Sim game). The hardpoints on Premium Mechs need to be identical to something else in it's same tonnage, even if it means a Premium Mech Atlas gets the Stock Awesome hardpoint config. This is because I do have munchkin blood in my viens and I can optimize things to perform in ways not intended by design and do so well. With people like me in the world, having a different hardpoint config that can only be obtained by paying for it with real money will either be worthless as it is less effective than other hardpoint configs or Pay To Win because we can push it an extra inch in a direction that other mechs cannot reach.

Darius Freedmen, on 22 May 2012 - 07:43 PM, said:

So those that pay to fund the further development of the game are not allowed to have stuff that the freeloaders can't?

Not at all what I'm posting about. Those that support the game with real money shouldn't be rewarded with anything that is mechanically different that free players cannot get their hands on. What should players use real money on to support the game? Things that can be seen, but offer no difference in gameplay, only looks.

Custom Models (Pirate Atlas, Jenner with 'heatsink wings'), special holding mounts for weapons (why yes, my Atlas's AC20 is inside of a Dragon's head, show your respect DC) or even a hula girl for your cockpit view, or lucky dice. Cosmetic items only, and the more successful F2P games that aren't shamed over the web thrive on this alone, because a free player that comes to love the game is more likely to buy cool cosmetic things for the mechs they have gotten attached to.

Mechanical options being exclusively bought with real cash reeks of Pay To Win and will drive players that feel the way I do away. There was a nice poll a little while back that showed a pretty even split on the concept of "Premium Mechs." About half voted for them, half voted against them. The trick is, those that voted for them will not leave if those special mechs have no mechanical difference in the game. But a good portion of those that voted against Premium Mechs will leave if they are mechanically different.

I'd go ahead and suggest that Premium Players could get access to AC's that fire Kamayamaya Waves and PPCs that shoot Magic Purple Rainbows but I think some of our Lore Guardians will cry foul about how it shatters the atmosphere, and they would be giving some very good points.

[GrimFist]

I liked the post, sometimes you just face palm them even if they don't see it.

[Karyu]

Arafinar, on 22 May 2012 - 06:02 PM, said:

Pretty standard isnt it? For most to come into a forum, not read anything fully and post away right?
Ara

I must be doing something wrong then. I've read pretty much every scrap since I registered and I think this is only my second post

EDIT: Nevermind, 10 posts. Really? lol apparently I don't remember what I read, or I would remember those 8 other posts.

Edited by Karyu, 22 May 2012 - 08:13 PM.