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[Historic]

Started too see a large number of players disconnecting in game when things are not going there way in a fight.
Just had a hunchback do it too me when I kill him got no kill for it even though I pull his mech a part.
Dev's please address this problem ta muchly

[superteds]

this is why stats are bad.

death2stats

[Darwins Dog]

I agree 100%. I don't know if it's officially considered griefing, but it should be. It gives nothing to the player doing it, but robs you of a kill/assist.

[Zolaz]

superteds, on 27 December 2012 - 08:39 AM, said:

this is why stats are bad.

death2stats

So you are saying that stats are worse than someone exploiting by disconnecting? I think you are putting the cart in front of the horse.

[PropagandaWar]

I think I started picking this up on Saturday. I believe its to keep a persons KDR hight. Here's the thing though a StreakCat killed 3 mechs last night and pulled the disco crap. Did he get the 3 kills? I think if any disco happens in game they should lose everything money, xp, and Kills and award other team who registered with an assist. I want to say I witnessed it about 10 times in the last three days and I didn't play overly much over Christmas.

Edited by PropagandaWar, 27 December 2012 - 08:50 AM.

[superteds]

Zolaz, on 27 December 2012 - 08:41 AM, said:

So you are saying that stats are worse than someone exploiting by disconnecting? I think you are putting the cart in front of the horse.

No, i'm saying having stats generally encourages behavior like this - 'my kd' etc.

PropagandaWar, on 27 December 2012 - 08:49 AM, said:

I think I started picking this up on Saturday. I believe its to keep a persons KDR hight. Here's the thing though a StreakCat killed 3 mechs last night and pulled the disco crap. Did he get the 3 kills? I think if any disco happens in game they should lose everything money, xp, and Kills and award other team who registered with an assist. I want to say I witnessed it about 10 times in the last three days and I didn't play overly much over Christmas.

The only problem with that is you can't tell if someones just Alt+F4'ing, or if their routers decided to be a brick today, or if the client's died on them.

[Voridan Atreides]

When you disco you should lose everything....and maybe give a kill to whoever did the most damage to that opponent?

[DevilJade]

superteds, on 27 December 2012 - 08:39 AM, said:

this is why stats are bad.

death2stats

No, this is what happens when there are no CONSEQUENCES.

[PropagandaWar]

superteds, on 27 December 2012 - 08:51 AM, said:

No, i'm saying having stats generally encourages behavior like this - 'my kd' etc.



The only problem with that is you can't tell if someones just Alt+F4'ing, or if their routers decided to be a brick today, or if the client's died on them.

One game isn't going to matter if the routers pooping out on you, and if its continual they have bigger problems than the game and shouldn't be ruining it for others to begin with. People usually CTD at the beginning. I personally witnessed the Discos of several and will start sending in the names I guess.

[siLve00]

WoT rule.. you disconnect you staying for 2-3 minutes ingame...

so no chance at all to prevent a death ^^ oh and no income from that match..
to be real .. thats the last problem we have right now.

[John Norad]

Fixing issues that cause bad behaviour should be top priority.

Yeah. Well. Should..

Those kills have to count. It would instantly remove this problem.

[Mercules]

John Norad, on 27 December 2012 - 09:17 AM, said:

Those kills have to count. It would instantly remove this problem.

True, but it would cause others like rage at having a CTD happen. "Agh... it's going to affect my stats crashing every 4th game like I have been." Which is funny since I've CTD twice since upgrading my system.

The root cause of it all is K/D and people who can't seem to grasp that it doesn't matter what that number is. Complain all you want about giving a trophy to kids for participating we still have people who think a made up number in what should be entertainment MEANS something beyond "Hey that's cool." We have people who derive self worth off this sort of thing and thus take it far too seriously and will do whatever it takes to have that little number be higher than someone else. Since fixing the attitude would probably mean therapy or altering society, simply removing the number will force these people to reconsider it's value.

[Rippthrough]

Seen loads of this the past few weeks, many repeat offenders too.

Yes, you've got a high K/D, well done, we still know you're crap.

[MaddMaxx]

John Norad, on 27 December 2012 - 09:17 AM, said:

Fixing issues that cause bad behaviour should be top priority.
Yeah. Well. Should..
Those kills have to count. It would instantly remove this problem.

Hang on a minute. I thought the OP posted his Prey disco'd before he killed him/her? How in the hell is PGI supposed to give out a Kill, when one was never actually made?

Would some value, say 93% damage done to a Chassis, rate as a Kill under whatever you would proposed as a Fix to the System? Perhaps only 89% damage applied would give you the Kill?

A Kill is not a Kill until it is reported in the game, by the game, as Player X was killed by Player Y.

[Kaemon]

Perhaps the issue is not removing the K/D ratio, but giving other stats/data on which players can epeen over.

Best light/med/heavy/assault, most base caps, time between getting killed, basically just bury us in data and spread the epeening around.

You can then use the data to discourage whatever the 'behavior dejour' is that month (disconnects, team killing, etc...) by tweaking it.

Want to save your KDR by disconnecting? Then you go to the bottom of the list of 'time in game' or something like that.

By adding more stats (not removing the little we have) you create better player behavior, then removing even more aspects of a already MVP (minimum viable product).

IMO.

[Nathan Bloodguard]

The problem isn't the k/D ratio, its more so it robs the other person from the xp and c-bills for the kill. Been a victim of this many times myself. They really should penalize you for it, or at least give the credit to the other person for the kill/assist.