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#1 Shivaxi

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 08:49 PM

I didn't see anything about it but...did they do something to the AMS last patch or so?

AMS seems to do nothing anymore...I played a game where someone launched an LRM 5 at me and it seemed like most of them hit me....5 missiles...an AMS should be able to take out 5 missiles easy.

Wondering if anyone else has noticed this. I just run without it now as it seems like a waste of a ton and a half.

#2 steelblueskies

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 09:52 PM

did you happen to have that ams installed in a stalker at the time? wouldn't call them useless on other chassis, but even double ams on a stalker seems to be underperforming on those rare occasions lrms appear and covers not close enough/ecm not present.

#3 Shivaxi

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 01:08 AM

nah, i was in my K2 Catapult at the time...and I was off to the side by myself with a Centurion I think it was a few hundred meters out who launched the LRM5 at me.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 01:59 AM

AMS is a curious fella. At one point with my double AMS stalker I observed the AMS nearly destroy a full LRM10 salvo shot at me. At other time, I was stagger fired at with 4 lrm5's by enemy and I just laughed "haha I will destroy all your missiles" (still on the double AMS stalker) and was hit by a lot of them. Both times in open areas with about 400-600m distance. AMS seems very inconsistent and unreliable. If you can use the tonnage and crit slots, I would drop AMS from mechs. I only use it on double, so atlas K and stalker 5S.

Edited by MadPanda, 24 December 2012 - 01:59 AM.


#5 SerpentrasD

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 04:27 AM

I only use the STK 5S ATM and what should I say the dual ams works sometimes how it does on my AS7 K but most of the time it dosent, I even have enough ammo and that is only 2tonns , in my atlas this never ever works with 2 only for a match I need 4 to cover my self. And I see a plenty of lrms last days. Sometimes it work incredible and no SSRM will reach me before the dual ams shoot them down. Also sometimes no lrm 5 reach the mech. but only sometimes.
I dont know what is better for my config on the stalker, with this dual ams I lost 2 dhs.

Edited by SerpentrasD, 24 December 2012 - 04:29 AM.


#6 Karenai

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 05:29 PM

If you are using AMS, you are the only one in your team. Almost no one uses it anymore. They all hope for ECM and complaining about ECM.
Before you would have four guys around you shooting at the incoming missiles with their AMS, too. Now, you are lucky if even one other guy has AMS.

People also underestimate LRM flying OVER AMS. If the incoming LRM fly over your teammates while on the way to you, their AMS also shoots down some missiles.
But if they do not put AMS on their mechs anymore, like most people right now, they dont diminish the number of LRM.

Just an observiation from the point of view of a missile boat. AMS use comes and goes with every patch. And big damage numbers with LRM are mostly because people stop using AMS.

Edited by Karenai, 29 December 2012 - 05:32 PM.


#7 Vallyn

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 07:56 PM

Also it could just be he dumb fired the LRMs - they won't trigger AMS without a lock last I checked.

#8 Thorqemada

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 01:04 AM

View PostVallyn, on 29 December 2012 - 07:56 PM, said:

Also it could just be he dumb fired the LRMs - they won't trigger AMS without a lock last I checked.


Lol ???

They should make Armor work that way^^

Edited by Thorqemada, 30 December 2012 - 01:06 AM.


#9 Terse

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 06:17 AM

I had the double AMS on a stalker. About ninety percent of the time it seems completely worthless, but sometimes it seems really nice -- I haven't been able to entirely determine what the situations are that relate to this as it becomes a bit difficult for me in the heat of battle. I didn't notice once when parked next to an AMS mech on either side that we were really tearring up the missles. Having only 3 tons of AMS ammo, though, such didn't continue that way for long.





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