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#1 Taiji

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:55 AM

I'm back after a month or so break from MWO, and already I'm pissed!

Pissed with the netcode still teleporting my target around when I shoot, of course, but more than anything right now I want to see MWO offer a genuine pugging option.

You know, one where half my team doesn't power down and hide while the other half dies.

Probably there's been a ton of threads on this already.

Surely no pugger in their right mind wants a <snip> 4 man premade anywhere in there.

Someone please show me where the devs have explained what they intend to do about it, and thanks!

BTW lots of nice improvements since I've been gone, nice new content and all that. I don't mean to be disparaging about anything but the things that are urinating me off.

And (knowing this forum as I do) please let's have some of the usual *replies thanks :D

Edited by Prosperity Park, 30 December 2012 - 09:25 AM.
edited per CoC


#2 Chavette

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:56 AM

They do 4mans because they get owned in 8v8mans, thats why.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:58 AM

View PostChavette, on 30 December 2012 - 08:56 AM, said:

They do 4mans because they get owned in 8v8mans, thats why.


Nearly. The truth is that they do it, the scummy ones, because they know it offers a chance at an unfair battle in their favor.

#4 Bguk

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:58 AM

Check out the Command Chair section, post on matchmaking.

#5 Taiji

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 08:59 AM

View PostBguk, on 30 December 2012 - 08:58 AM, said:

Check out the Command Chair section, post on matchmaking.


Don't know what you're talking about. Link it for me, please.

#6 Bguk

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:02 AM

View PostTaiji, on 30 December 2012 - 08:59 AM, said:


Don't know what you're talking about. Link it for me, please.


On an iPad and I fail at linking with it. Spend a little extra time looking into the forums and notice there's not just a General Discussion section and you'll see what I mean.

#7 Taiji

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:04 AM

View PostBguk, on 30 December 2012 - 09:02 AM, said:

On an iPad and I fail at linking with it. Spend a little extra time looking into the forums and notice there's not just a General Discussion section and you'll see what I mean.


Well thanks for nothing then. Bye.

#8 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:04 AM

Check list...
L2P
JAG (Join a Group)
Its Beta
...
...
...
Did I miss any? :D

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 30 December 2012 - 09:07 AM.


#9 Bguk

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:04 AM

View PostTaiji, on 30 December 2012 - 09:04 AM, said:


Well thanks for nothing then. Bye.


You're welcome. Bye.

#10 Livewyr

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:04 AM

scum bag pubs ruin games. that's why I four man. I can count on at least 3 other mechs to at least communicate in the team game, let alone not run of to do something insanely stupid, or better, run of to suicide since they're guaranteed money now in any mech.

and I know that at least three of my team won't be team killing me.

scumbag pubs.

#11 Taiji

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:06 AM

View PostLivewyr, on 30 December 2012 - 09:04 AM, said:

scum bag pubs ruin games. that's why I four man. I can count on at least 3 other mechs to at least communicate in the team game, let alone not run of to do something insanely stupid, or better, run of to suicide since they're guaranteed money now in any mech.

and I know that at least three of my team won't be team killing me.

scumbag pubs.


I guess it took you hours to type that post. Thanks for the effort.

#12 Throat Punch

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:09 AM

View PostChavette, on 30 December 2012 - 08:56 AM, said:

They do 4mans because they get owned in 8v8mans, thats why.


I drop as a 3 man (sometimes 4 if someone is on) because our group doesn't have 8 people. So, generalization is bad.

#13 Bguk

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:10 AM

View PostTaiji, on 30 December 2012 - 09:06 AM, said:


I guess it took you hours to type that post. Thanks for the effort.


He spent as much time on it as you did looking for the Command Chair section.

Oh and hi.

#14 Livewyr

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:13 AM

longer than usual tj, because I'm on a phone, but not as long as it took for your OP.

#15 Wraith05

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:13 AM

Although I get a strong feeling you are just trying to troll/agitate people here is the link to the current matchmaking changes and future plans. Enjoy and please try to be a bit more civil.

http://mwomercs.com/...79-matchmaking/

#16 AlexEss

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:16 AM

I am just curious.. outside of the people posting that they are a 4-man premade(and they are pretty few and far between).. how do you(the OP) tell? Because i rarley can say with any certainty if i am fasing a pre-made or just a bunch of people that.. i do not know.. think.

Any way the next stage of match making will come soon and then you will only get matched with/against people roughly your own skill level so that should help a fair lot. I am pretty sure that disableling pre-made groups would do nothing for your W/L or K/D... Some times your are simply out gunned.

#17 N Danger

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:16 AM

View PostChavette, on 30 December 2012 - 08:56 AM, said:

They do 4mans because they get owned in 8v8mans, thats why.

No they do 4 mans because they have less than 8 clan mates on.
Or they do 3 mans. Or they do two mans. I've noticed nobody complains about those combos.

But I do agree with your point that teamwork is over-powered. And unfair to people who refuse to work as a team.

I have to say this is the first online FPS game I have played in where some are upset that people will work as a team. I never heard this in Battlefield or any of the others I've played from any mature person.

I expect to play against play against teams when pugging and then get focused fired. It's just the nature of this type of game.

It is not like there are not recruitment threads or community run chat servers where you can hook up with people to team with.
It is not hard to reach out to people and make friends to team up with.

#18 Flying Blind

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:18 AM

Less QQ more pew pew. The pug game is better now than it has ever been.

#19 Taiji

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:19 AM

View PostWraith05, on 30 December 2012 - 09:13 AM, said:

Although I get a strong feeling you are just trying to troll/agitate people here is the link to the current matchmaking changes and future plans. Enjoy and please try to be a bit more civil.

http://mwomercs.com/...79-matchmaking/


You call me a troll while asking for civility in return?

Well, thanks for the link anyway.

I see they plan nothing that helps.

Did I see wrong? Can someone please explain how anything in there addresses the issue I'm angrily ranting about. Perhaps in my rage I am somehow failing to read the soothing bit!

#20 o0Marduk0o

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:19 AM

Legendary founder, 900+ posts and he still don't know about the Command Chair forum section? We have the Command Chair for 2 month now.





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