86 replies to this topic

[TheJuggernaut]

WithSilentWings, on 23 May 2012 - 07:25 PM, said:

To be frank, one person's experience with an SSD's lifespan should not have any impact on your decision. The reality is that SSDs are doing very well, most brands are very reliable, and the feelings regarding them are OVERWHELMINGLY positive. There are always people who are worried about change, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to look at the inner workings of both storage mediums to decide which would be more likely to last if all else (quality etc.) is equal.

Additionally, NEVER EVER EVER buy a storage medium because it's reliable to replace redundancy AND backups. Don't trust anything with your data.




Your friend is right. Two raptors in raid 0 is likely still going to be notably slower than a single SSD.



What does your friend do? This is a huge waste as a gaming machine, or likely even a workstation for one user. It's entirely plausible that it will actually perform significantly worse than usual off-the-shelf stuff unless we're talking about some kind of rendering or scientific processing... but the HD throughput is awesome.

Given that, it would actually still be entirely believable to find out that a $300 SSD would still have better random read/write speeds

He uses it for photography and taking over the world as he says.

Edited by TheJuggernaut, 23 May 2012 - 08:01 PM.

[Xenodraken]

Violation, on 23 May 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

@Xenodraken So you are just using the raptor for storage and the SSD's for load ups and such?

I've told my friend that I wanted to go do 2 raptors on raid 0 over an SSD and he just bashes on me saying I should just spend all that money on a single SSD.

I would have to agree with your friend.. either get a big single SSD or a pair of ssd half the size and run Raid0 its super super fast in Raid .. almost double the speed over one sdd. at the risk of doubling your chances for losing data because if one drive fails the volume is down. I just back up every week and have no issues. when your backing up a fast drive.. it happens fast lol..
As for the raptor yes its a secondary drive on this machine.. my second machine has all the TB dives.but i still run that one's OS on 2 ssd in raid0 lol

If you are using a spin drive. your windows rating will be 5.9 max. I found that out the hard way after getting the raptor a while back. Lots will say it doesnt make a difference, well apparently it must because the devs here want to know.. we've seen this.. profiler..

something to keep in mind with SSD. try to get something with the same read write transfers speeds. What goes up must come down.. eventually Many also say never to Drefah an SSD. I havent in over a year on my other rig.. No troubles

None of my info has be tested on benchmarking programs. I test my gear.. using it. and the SSD's are the biggest noticable improvement i have ever made to a system. the fastest MB GPU.. Ram what ever doesnt mean a thing if you have to wait for HD loading.

My system is 7.9 across the board in the window rating,besides the CPU. which is a i7 2600K intel sandy running at 4.4Ghz I can pull 7.8 if i go to 4.5ghz but there is no need. Ive always been a strong believer in getting everything higher then the CPU, and its working really well

Edit : found out today going to just 4.5ghz on Cpu made a 7.8 score, and now overall score. *shrugs*

Edited by Xenodraken, 24 May 2012 - 02:42 PM.

[Drakewolff Kerensky]

Vulpesveritas, on 23 May 2012 - 07:53 PM, said:

Eh, you can get better for your money.
1. For a GPU, you can get a Radeon HD 6870 for less, and get slightly better performance, or pay a bit more for a 7850 and get higher performance still.
2. Don't mix and match RAM brands. That will cause performance issues.
3. A 1000watt PSU is overkill.
4. Have you looked at comparible prices from e-tailor custom computer suites? Like CyberpowerPC.com, iBuypower, AVAdirect and the like? You may get a better deal that way.


Anyhow, my upcoming system:
Phenom II X6 1055t (4ghz OC w/ Coolermaster TPC 812 or Hyper 212 Evo depending on budget.)
AM3+ 9xx/10xx series chipset motherboard, AsRock or Asus.
8GB DDR3-1333mhz AMD branded RAM w/ low profile heatsinks
1TB 7200rpm WD RE4 HDD
Radeon HD 7770 or above 7xxx series GPU
750w PC Power-and-cooling Silencer MK-II PSU
NZXT Phantom 410 or refurbished Phantom case (they're on sale half off right now. hoping they still will be in July.)
Windows 7 Home Premium

thanks for the info

[LordDeathStrike]

Gremlich Johns, on 23 May 2012 - 01:10 PM, said:

No, you do not, you can get a 10,000RPM HDD that will compete with the SSDs. Almost as fast, less likely to die than an SSD after 2-3 years, Drawback - noisy.

(you gave people an hour to post? Do you know how many custom rig threads there are?)

ahem. someones been smokin crack.

10,000 rpm drives are barely faster then 7200 rpm drives, ya theres a good difference in rpm, but moving parts hard drives are all UNBEARABLY SLOW.

they also make a 15k rpm raptor, costs as much as an ssd, 2 of them in raid mirror so you can search them at 30k rpm doubled up speed, still cant touch my intel 320 3gb/s ssd (i know i know its old ssd tech, but my board doesnt support 6gb/s sata and its a laptop so its a ***** to replace) read write and iops speeds, well since hdd dont even have iops thats moot. point being the most expensive mechanical hard drives that cost as much as ssd, cant compete with ssd speed. also intel drives have 5 year warrenties, so unreliable? hardly. all you need to do is follow the ssd newbs newby guide, about turning off and not useing things like page files, sleep, and hybernate, those are what kill your ssd. and never ever defrag them, they dont frag in the first place. and run the ssd tuner software it comes with weekly, it keeps it in top condition. ive had my ssd for almost a year, and it still has 100% life expectancy reading on its health gage software.

[Stahlseele]

Violation, on 23 May 2012 - 02:15 PM, said:

This is true, my fans are the noisest at the moment. I really don't mind noise actually since when I do gaming I use my headset and its a closed ear headset so outside noise gets blocked off. For how long have you been having your Volciraptors for?

Ah nice! I generally build this build for the new CS:GO and MWO.
Do you have any plans or any games you want to build up your new system for?

About 3 years.
As i said, end of the year it's time for a new one i'm afraid . .

[Aethon]

TheJuggernaut, on 23 May 2012 - 06:53 PM, said:

This is my friends rig he's building at the moment.
‎16 15,000RPM 3G sas disks
24 core CPU 2.8 ghz
top of the line geforce cards in SLI

1750 watts of power to run the thing lol.

The thing transfers files at a speed of 2400 megabytes/second

and Disk to Disk transfer of 1800 Megabytes/second.

THIS, gentlemen, is what you need to show your wives, when it's time to upgrade.

"See, honey, the power supply I need is only 1,200 watts, so that'll save money on the power bill. I only need 1 processor, not 4, and I also only need 2 hard drives; this will also help save us money on the power bill. It's a good, efficient, reasonable build. And I found some of the parts on sale..."

[Violation]

Drakewolff Kerensky, on 23 May 2012 - 06:43 PM, said:

here the one i going to get after i get my school money


5150 Escape FX Quad-Core Gaming PC

• AMD FX 8150 3.60GHz Octa-Core AM3 RET Processor
  
• Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P AM3 V X16 2D3 M8 GL R MATX Motherboard
  
• 4GB DDR3-1333 PC3-10600 Memory
  
• 4GB DDR3-1333 PC3-10600 Memory Kingston HyperX
  
• 2TB 3.5 SATA3 7200RPM 64MB
  
• 1TB 3.5 SATA3 7200RPM 32MB
  
• DVD±RW DL 22X Black SATA BULK Optical Drive
  
• GeForce GTX560 Ti 1GD5 X16 2DVI MHDMI
  
• Mid Tower No Power Supply Red Chassis
  
• CoolerMaster 1000W ATX EPS 12V 80Plus Bronze PSU
  
• Aerocool 2 Bay Front Fan Touch LCD Control Panel
  
• 10/100/1000 Gigabit Network Onboard
  
• Encore ENLWI-N/-NX2 Wireless-n PCI Adapter 802.11bgn
  
• Logitech USB Keyboard and Mouse Combo OEM
  
• Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 32/64bit COA
  
• Microsoft Office Professional 2010 Ret. 2PC
  
• Hannspree 21.5in 30000:1 5MS LCD WS Black w/SPKS Monitor
  
• PP1500SWT2 1500VA / 1000W UPS LED

made by

• CybertronPC my spec

Is this a company near your area? I've never heard of them before and the website looks kinda sketchy.

[Violation]

WithSilentWings, on 23 May 2012 - 07:25 PM, said:

To be frank, one person's experience with an SSD's lifespan should not have any impact on your decision. The reality is that SSDs are doing very well, most brands are very reliable, and the feelings regarding them are OVERWHELMINGLY positive. There are always people who are worried about change, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to look at the inner workings of both storage mediums to decide which would be more likely to last if all else (quality etc.) is equal.

Additionally, NEVER EVER EVER buy a storage medium because it's reliable to replace redundancy AND backups. Don't trust anything with your data.




Your friend is right. Two raptors in raid 0 is likely still going to be notably slower than a single SSD.



What does your friend do? This is a huge waste as a gaming machine, or likely even a workstation for one user. It's entirely plausible that it will actually perform significantly worse than usual off-the-shelf stuff unless we're talking about some kind of rendering or scientific processing... but the HD throughput is awesome.

Given that, it would actually still be entirely believable to find out that a $300 SSD would still have better random read/write speeds

It's not that I am going judged from one person's perspective but I run into reading they do die quickly, but like I said I am willing to buy an SSD in the future or even buy myself 2 raptors. It all depends on what good deal I find at the moment I guess.

My friend is just using 3 25" 2ms screens and primarly gaming. Sure its a little above and beyond but if I had the luxury to spend the extra cash I don't seee why not

EDIT: I really want an SSD now

Edited by Violation, 24 May 2012 - 07:05 AM.

[Catamount]

Violation, on 23 May 2012 - 06:33 PM, said:

So for how long did you have your SSD? Like I said I really do want to upgrade to an SSD, I am just curious on its lifespam.

It lasted over a year, and to be honest, I'm beginning to suspect the PSU might be going (it IS 5 years old), so that might have played into it.

Like WithSilentWings said though, my case is anecdotal. Performance comments on my part are one thing, because that won't change from one machine to the next (my Vertex II will be as fast compared to my Caviar Green as any Vertex II will be compared to any Caviar Green), so those comments are somewhat relevant, just like a site's speed review, if not with the precise methodology.

However, when it comes to reliability, some drives will fail, while others won't. On my first computer from 2005 (that is to say, the first desktop that was mine, rather than my parents'), one of my two hard drives failed within six months. The other is still going, seven years later.


The point is that, as I argued to another poster in the hardware myths thread, you cannot rely on individual cases to make judgements about hardware reliability. The Law of Large Numbers dictates that no matter how reliable hardware is, you'll always have a portion of people for whom said hardware fails. That's why the only way to judge reliability is to look at a statistically significant sample of cases. Sadly, it's not like studies are constantly published on failure rates, so Newegg/Amazon style reviews are about the best you can do (just keep in mind they have a bias towards bad cases, so reviews always paint an unwarrantedly negative picture)

I've heard good things about Mushkin's SSDs (though there won't be a huge difference from one Sandforce drive to the next), so here's a case in point

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820226236

328 reviews, and 78% are 4 and 5 egg

Keep in mind that in all likelihood there are several thousand purchases, and only a handful overall actually come back and write reviews. I certainly don't write reviews for everything. But among those thousands, those with bad experiences (the two-in-a-row failure type experiences) are far more likely to come back than those who's drive just worked fine.

Even I my reviews from this effect. It's a null hypothesis of sorts that a piece of hardware will work, so when it does, I usually am too lazy to report it. When it fails, I irately complain about it.

So the bottom line is that in reality, for that drive, it's probably more like 90-95% positive experiences.

Edited by Catamount, 24 May 2012 - 07:13 AM.

[Mota Prefect]

Okay I'll play along


OS Version: Microsoft Windows 7 Enterprise

Case: Antec 1200 v3

System RAM: 16GB - Mushkin Redline 2133Mhz

CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-2600K CPU @ 4.6GHz

CPU Cooler: Corsair H100 Self Contained Water Cooler w/ four 120mm fans on radiator for push/pull

Motherboard: ASUS Maximum IV Extreme - Z

Video Card Description: Powercolor Radeon HD 7970, 3GB VRAM

Primary Display Resolution: 1920x1080

Maximum Display Resolution: 4096x2160

Microphone: SoundBlaster Tactic Wrath 3D Wireless Gaming Headset

Primary Hard Drive : Corsair Force GT 180GB SSD 555/MB Read, 550/MB write

Secondary Hard Drive Space: Western Digital 2TB Caviar Black HDD

PSU: Antec CP-1000 , 1000w

I built this machine specifically to handle Battlefield 3 and Mechwarrior Online. My previous pc was a dinosaur ( phemon II x3/HD4870/6GBram )

[Vincent Vascaul]

All this chatter but no pics for shame





2700K Overclocked to 4.5
Asus P67 Deluxe Mobo
16gb 1866 Gskill
Dual 2gb 6950's unlocked and flashed to 6970s
Crucial M4 256gb Boot Drive
2 TB WD Green storage drive
Corsair HX 1000 PSU
Dimas Test Bench in White

3 23 inch Acer 1080P monitors which are getting swapped for three 27 inch 1440P monitors and I have the 42 inch 1080p TV and my projector.

This is just my benching station but it will get me by until I finish my desk build.

Edited by Vincent Vascaul, 24 May 2012 - 03:51 PM.

[Gremlich Johns]

I had an 80GB OCZ Vertex II that lasted a month and died. Others have had the issue with the same SSD and OCZ says less than 1% have issues with their products. Newegg eggs out of 5? 2.

I have the replacement but, even after 9 months, still have not installed it.

[Nasty9]

Violation, on 23 May 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

@Xenodraken So you are just using the raptor for storage and the SSD's for load ups and such?

I've told my friend that I wanted to go do 2 raptors on raid 0 over an SSD and he just bashes on me saying I should just spend all that money on a single SSD.

Definitely go for the SSD. My first SSD was a Corsair X32 (Indilinx Barefoot) and it SMOKED the 15K5 RAID0 setup I was running. That is an old SSD too, newer ones smoke it like it is a hard drive.

That doesn't even go into platter density: those old velociraptors can barely keep up with modern 7200s. Sure there are the HLHX/HHTX Raptors, but they are only barely cost effect at the 1TB mark.

Germlich Johns: OCZ SSDs are quite flakey. If you aren't going to keep the drive, you should really sell it.

[Violation]

Catamount, on 24 May 2012 - 07:00 AM, said:

It lasted over a year, and to be honest, I'm beginning to suspect the PSU might be going (it IS 5 years old), so that might have played into it.

Like WithSilentWings said though, my case is anecdotal. Performance comments on my part are one thing, because that won't change from one machine to the next (my Vertex II will be as fast compared to my Caviar Green as any Vertex II will be compared to any Caviar Green), so those comments are somewhat relevant, just like a site's speed review, if not with the precise methodology.

However, when it comes to reliability, some drives will fail, while others won't. On my first computer from 2005 (that is to say, the first desktop that was mine, rather than my parents'), one of my two hard drives failed within six months. The other is still going, seven years later.


The point is that, as I argued to another poster in the hardware myths thread, you cannot rely on individual cases to make judgements about hardware reliability. The Law of Large Numbers dictates that no matter how reliable hardware is, you'll always have a portion of people for whom said hardware fails. That's why the only way to judge reliability is to look at a statistically significant sample of cases. Sadly, it's not like studies are constantly published on failure rates, so Newegg/Amazon style reviews are about the best you can do (just keep in mind they have a bias towards bad cases, so reviews always paint an unwarrantedly negative picture)

I've heard good things about Mushkin's SSDs (though there won't be a huge difference from one Sandforce drive to the next), so here's a case in point

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820226236

328 reviews, and 78% are 4 and 5 egg

Keep in mind that in all likelihood there are several thousand purchases, and only a handful overall actually come back and write reviews. I certainly don't write reviews for everything. But among those thousands, those with bad experiences (the two-in-a-row failure type experiences) are far more likely to come back than those who's drive just worked fine.

Even I my reviews from this effect. It's a null hypothesis of sorts that a piece of hardware will work, so when it does, I usually am too lazy to report it. When it fails, I irately complain about it.

So the bottom line is that in reality, for that drive, it's probably more like 90-95% positive experiences.

Well said sir. I would still love to have an SSD one day.. one day.. Hahaha.

Gremlich Johns, on 24 May 2012 - 04:51 PM, said:

I had an 80GB OCZ Vertex II that lasted a month and died. Others have had the issue with the same SSD and OCZ says less than 1% have issues with their products. Newegg eggs out of 5? 2.

I have the replacement but, even after 9 months, still have not installed it.

That sounds like that product should of been on recall if it died that fast..

Vincent Vascaul, on 24 May 2012 - 03:49 PM, said:

All this chatter but no pics for shame





2700K Overclocked to 4.5
Asus P67 Deluxe Mobo
16gb 1866 Gskill
Dual 2gb 6950's unlocked and flashed to 6970s
Crucial M4 256gb Boot Drive
2 TB WD Green storage drive
Corsair HX 1000 PSU
Dimas Test Bench in White

3 23 inch Acer 1080P monitors which are getting swapped for three 27 inch 1440P monitors and I have the 42 inch 1080p TV and my projector.

This is just my benching station but it will get me by until I finish my desk build.

Oh **** this brings tears to my eyes. Thumbs up!

Mota Prefect, on 24 May 2012 - 03:38 PM, said:

Okay I'll play along


OS Version: Microsoft Windows 7 Enterprise

Case: Antec 1200 v3

System RAM: 16GB - Mushkin Redline 2133Mhz

CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-2600K CPU @ 4.6GHz

CPU Cooler: Corsair H100 Self Contained Water Cooler w/ four 120mm fans on radiator for push/pull

Motherboard: ASUS Maximum IV Extreme - Z

Video Card Description: Powercolor Radeon HD 7970, 3GB VRAM

Primary Display Resolution: 1920x1080

Maximum Display Resolution: 4096x2160

Microphone: SoundBlaster Tactic Wrath 3D Wireless Gaming Headset

Primary Hard Drive : Corsair Force GT 180GB SSD 555/MB Read, 550/MB write

Secondary Hard Drive Space: Western Digital 2TB Caviar Black HDD

PSU: Antec CP-1000 , 1000w

I built this machine specifically to handle Battlefield 3 and Mechwarrior Online. My previous pc was a dinosaur ( phemon II x3/HD4870/6GBram )

Very nice, very nice indeed!

[Nasty9]

We definitely need moar pics in this thread!

The parts:

i7 920 C0 @ 3.78 (21*180)
Asus P6T Deluxe v1
16GB Samsung 30nm DDR3 (~1443 (IMC won't do faster ))
AMD HD5970 (1.15v 875MHz Core, 1212MHz Mem)
Corsair F40
2x 15K5 Cheetahs RAID0 (128k)
Samsung HD103UJ

The view

Edited by Nasty9, 24 May 2012 - 09:16 PM.

[Drakewolff Kerensky]

here what iam look at for Mechwarrior Online and hope i can get it




[color=Black]Gamer Mage D355[/color]
1 x Case ( CoolerMaster HAF 932 Advanced Full Tower Gaming Case - Black )
1 x Case Lighting ( Meteor Light w/ 8 Speed settings - Red )
1 x iBUYPOWER Labs - Noise Reduction ( Advanced - iBUYPOWER Harmony SRS Sound Reduction System )
1 x iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion ( [6-Port] NZXT Internal USB Expansion System + Bluetooth & Wireless N Modules )
1 x Processor ( AMD FX-8150 CPU (8x 3.60GHz/8MB L2 Cache) )
1 x iBUYPOWER PowerDrive ( PowerDrive Level 2 - Up to 20% Overclocking )
1 x Processor Cooling ( Liquid CPU Cooling System [AMD] - ARC Dual Silent High Performance Fan Upgrade (Push-Pull Airflow) )
1 x Memory ( 16 GB [4 GB X4] DDR3-1600 Memory Module - G.Skill Ripjaws X )
1 x Video Card ( AMD Radeon HD 7870 - 2GB - CrossFire Mode (Dual Cards) )
1 x Video Card Brand ( Major Brand Powered by AMD or NVIDIA )
1 x Motherboard ( [3-Way SLI] ASUS Crosshair V Formula -- AMD 990FX w/ 4x PCI-E 2.0 x16 )
1 x Motherboard USB / SATA Interface ( U3S6 USB 3.0 & SATA 3.0 PCI-E 2.0 x4 Expansion Card )
1 x Power Supply ( 1600 Watt - LEPA G1600 80+ Gold )
1 x Primary Hard Drive ( 2 TB HARD DRIVE -- 64M Cache, 7200rpm, 6.0Gb/s - Dual 2TB Drives(2TB Capacity) - RAID 1 Data Security )
1 x Data Hard Drive ( 3 TB HARD DRIVE -- 64M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0Gb/s - Single Drive )
1 x Optical Drive ( [12X Blu-Ray] LG BLU-RAY Re-Writer, DVD±R/±RW Burner Combo Drive - Red )
1 x 2nd Optical Drive ( 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Red )
1 x Flash Media Reader / Writer ( 12-In-1 Internal Flash Media Card Reader/Writer - Red )
1 x Meter Display ( NZXT Sentry 2 Touch Screen Fan Controller & Temperature Display )
0 x USB Expansion ( None )
1 x Sound Card ( Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro )
1 x Network Card ( Killer 2100 Gaming Network Card )
1 x Operating System ( Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate + Office Starter 2010 (Includes basic versions of Word and Excel) - 64-bit )
1 x Additional Software ( Microsoft Office 2010 Professional - Word, Excel, PowerPoint, OneNote, Outlook, Access, and Publisher included )
1 x Keyboard ( iBUYPOWER USB Keyboard )
1 x Keyboard ( Logitech G19 Gaming Keyboard )
1 x Mouse ( iBUYPOWER Internet Mouse )
1 x Mouse ( Razer Naga Epic 17-button MMOG Wired/Wireless Gaming Mouse )
1 x Mouse ( Razer Vespula Gaming Mouse Mat w/ Dual-Sided Gaming Grade Surfaces )
1 x Headset ( ASUS Vulcan ANC Gaming Headset )
1 x Monitor ( 27" LCD TV 1920x1080 -- Sceptre X270BV-FHD )
0 x 2nd Monitor ( None )
1 x Speaker System ( Logitech Z506 5.1 Surround 3D Sound Speakers + Subwoofer - Black )
1 x External Hard Drives [USB 3.0/2.0/eSATA] ( 3.5" External 2 TB Hard Drive - USB 3.0 / USB 2.0 )
1 x Wireless Network Adapter ( LINKSYS AE1000 802.11n Dual-Band Wireless USB Adapter )
1 x Wireless Network Access Point/Router ( ASUS RT-N56U 802.11n Gigabit LAN 300Mbps Dual-Band Wireless Router )
1 x Power Protection ( Mighty Voltage Regulator - Opti-UPS SS1200-AVR )
1 x Power Protection ( Surge Suppressor - APC Surge Arrest )
0 x Video Camera ( None )
1 x Advanced Build Options ( Professional wiring for all cables inside the system tower - Achieve exceptional airflow in your chassis )
1 x Advanced Build Options ( Professional wiring for all cables inside the system tower - Basic Pro Wiring )
1 x Advanced Build Options ( Professional wiring for all cables inside the system tower - Advanced - Power Package (Individually Sleeved 24-pin ATX, 8-pin CPU, and SATA Drive Power Cabling) )
1 x Advanced Build Options ( Professional wiring for all cables inside the system tower - Advanced - Video Package (Individually Sleeved 8-pin and 6-pin PCI-E VGA Power Cabling) )

from Ibuypower

[Nasty9]

Check iBuyPower reviews before you do buy, there have been quite a number of dissatisfied customers in the past.

[bawchicawawa]

Gremlich Johns, on 23 May 2012 - 01:10 PM, said:

No, you do not, you can get a 10,000RPM HDD that will compete with the SSDs. Almost as fast, less likely to die than an SSD after 2-3 years, Drawback - noisy.

(you gave people an hour to post? Do you know how many custom rig threads there are?)

a 10k rpm hdd wont perform the same as an ssd, for one thing. Also, 10k rpm hhd's cost WAY too much.


http://www.storagere...ptor_1tb_review

http://www.storagere..._ssd_330_review


[color="#454545"]The intel 330 is FAR better than the velociraptor.[/color]

Edited by bawchicawawa, 24 May 2012 - 09:53 PM.

[Vulpesveritas]

Drakewolff Kerensky, on 24 May 2012 - 09:19 PM, said:

here what iam look at for Mechwarrior Online and hope i can get it




[color=Black]Gamer Mage D355[/color]
1 x Case ( CoolerMaster HAF 932 Advanced Full Tower Gaming Case - Black )
1 x Case Lighting ( Meteor Light w/ 8 Speed settings - Red )
1 x iBUYPOWER Labs - Noise Reduction ( Advanced - iBUYPOWER Harmony SRS Sound Reduction System )
1 x iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion ( [6-Port] NZXT Internal USB Expansion System + Bluetooth & Wireless N Modules )
1 x Processor ( AMD FX-8150 CPU (8x 3.60GHz/8MB L2 Cache) )
1 x iBUYPOWER PowerDrive ( PowerDrive Level 2 - Up to 20% Overclocking )
1 x Processor Cooling ( Liquid CPU Cooling System [AMD] - ARC Dual Silent High Performance Fan Upgrade (Push-Pull Airflow) )
1 x Memory ( 16 GB [4 GB X4] DDR3-1600 Memory Module - G.Skill Ripjaws X )
1 x Video Card ( AMD Radeon HD 7870 - 2GB - CrossFire Mode (Dual Cards) )
1 x Video Card Brand ( Major Brand Powered by AMD or NVIDIA )
1 x Motherboard ( [3-Way SLI] ASUS Crosshair V Formula -- AMD 990FX w/ 4x PCI-E 2.0 x16 )
1 x Motherboard USB / SATA Interface ( U3S6 USB 3.0 & SATA 3.0 PCI-E 2.0 x4 Expansion Card )
1 x Power Supply ( 1600 Watt - LEPA G1600 80+ Gold )
1 x Primary Hard Drive ( 2 TB HARD DRIVE -- 64M Cache, 7200rpm, 6.0Gb/s - Dual 2TB Drives(2TB Capacity) - RAID 1 Data Security )
1 x Data Hard Drive ( 3 TB HARD DRIVE -- 64M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0Gb/s - Single Drive )
1 x Optical Drive ( [12X Blu-Ray] LG BLU-RAY Re-Writer, DVD±R/±RW Burner Combo Drive - Red )
1 x 2nd Optical Drive ( 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Red )
1 x Flash Media Reader / Writer ( 12-In-1 Internal Flash Media Card Reader/Writer - Red )
1 x Meter Display ( NZXT Sentry 2 Touch Screen Fan Controller & Temperature Display )
0 x USB Expansion ( None )
1 x Sound Card ( Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro )
1 x Network Card ( Killer 2100 Gaming Network Card )
1 x Operating System ( Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate + Office Starter 2010 (Includes basic versions of Word and Excel) - 64-bit )
1 x Additional Software ( Microsoft Office 2010 Professional - Word, Excel, PowerPoint, OneNote, Outlook, Access, and Publisher included )
1 x Keyboard ( iBUYPOWER USB Keyboard )
1 x Keyboard ( Logitech G19 Gaming Keyboard )
1 x Mouse ( iBUYPOWER Internet Mouse )
1 x Mouse ( Razer Naga Epic 17-button MMOG Wired/Wireless Gaming Mouse )
1 x Mouse ( Razer Vespula Gaming Mouse Mat w/ Dual-Sided Gaming Grade Surfaces )
1 x Headset ( ASUS Vulcan ANC Gaming Headset )
1 x Monitor ( 27" LCD TV 1920x1080 -- Sceptre X270BV-FHD )
0 x 2nd Monitor ( None )
1 x Speaker System ( Logitech Z506 5.1 Surround 3D Sound Speakers + Subwoofer - Black )
1 x External Hard Drives [USB 3.0/2.0/eSATA] ( 3.5" External 2 TB Hard Drive - USB 3.0 / USB 2.0 )
1 x Wireless Network Adapter ( LINKSYS AE1000 802.11n Dual-Band Wireless USB Adapter )
1 x Wireless Network Access Point/Router ( ASUS RT-N56U 802.11n Gigabit LAN 300Mbps Dual-Band Wireless Router )
1 x Power Protection ( Mighty Voltage Regulator - Opti-UPS SS1200-AVR )
1 x Power Protection ( Surge Suppressor - APC Surge Arrest )
0 x Video Camera ( None )
1 x Advanced Build Options ( Professional wiring for all cables inside the system tower - Achieve exceptional airflow in your chassis )
1 x Advanced Build Options ( Professional wiring for all cables inside the system tower - Basic Pro Wiring )
1 x Advanced Build Options ( Professional wiring for all cables inside the system tower - Advanced - Power Package (Individually Sleeved 24-pin ATX, 8-pin CPU, and SATA Drive Power Cabling) )
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If I might make some input... Cyberpower PC will generally be a better value, your PSU is complete overkill, and you'd be better off with a SSD as your primary drive.

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bawchicawawa, on 24 May 2012 - 09:29 PM, said:

a 10k rpm hdd wont perform the same as an ssd, for one thing. Also, 10k rpm hhd's cost WAY too much.


http://www.storagere...ptor_1tb_review

http://www.storagere..._ssd_330_review


[color=#454545]The intel 330 is FAR better than the velociraptor.[/color]

They are still Head and Shoulders above normal HDD's in terms of Performance and in smaller sizes still head and shoulders above SSD's price wise . .