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[Panserbjorne]

Hey all,

Quick question:

I recently read that you don't need to complete the elite effeciencies on all three mechs in the same chasis, but rather you only need to complete them for three mechs within the same weight class. Is this the case? And, if so, does that mean completing elite on two cataphracts and on one catapult will unlock it for all heavies thereafter?

I apologize if this is a question that has frequently been answered.

[Skwisgaar Skwigelf]

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Edited by Skwisgaar Skwigelf, 09 January 2013 - 11:31 AM.

[Budor]

You need to have BASIC completed on 3 variants of the same chassi to take any variant of this chassi to MASTER. This is seperate for every chassi. 3x basic for every chassi is needed.

So when you have 2 pults and 1 phract at elite (you filled basic to open up elite) it means that you already completed 3x basic for both chassi, it has nothing to do with how many you have on elite.

The prerequisite is 3x basic for each chassi.

Edited by Budor, 09 January 2013 - 11:09 AM.

[Kristov Kerensky]

You must get Basic in 3 of the same chassis type to unlock the Elite, then you must get Elite in 3 of the same chassis type to unlock Master.

So...Catapult A1, C4 and K2 must all have Basic before you unlock Elite. You must then complete Elite on the Catapult A1, C4 and K2 before you can unlock Master.

[Solomon Ward]

Skwisgaar Skwigelf, on 09 January 2013 - 11:03 AM, said:

That is incorrect, you must finish elite for 3 Cataphract variants in order to be able to master 1 or more of those variants. Same is true for each mech chassis.

That is incorrect.OP is correct.

You finished Elite on two Cataphracts and one Catapult.

From now on you only have to finish the Basic efficiency on three mechs of your chosen new heavy and can than go all the way up to Master.

[LtZerge]

I've experimented with this myself while 'leveling up' my chassis. You need to complete basics on 3 mech variants of the same chassis for elite, but only need elite from 3 mech variants of the same WEIGHT CLASS to get master. This was covered in the following thread: http://mwomercs.com/...slot-confusion/

There seems to be a lot of misconceptions about this floating around for some reason.

[Skwisgaar Skwigelf]

Did that change at some point then? Because I have not been able to actually purchase the Master efficiency without previously finishing Elite for 3 variants.

As soon as Elite is done I know it will show "Master 0/1" but I wasn't aware it would let you actually purchase it without the 3 Elites.

[Keisuke Nagisa]

OP is correct. It specifically says "Purchase all ELITE effeciencies for 3 variants of this weight class to unlock Master."



I think they should make this more clear as many people misunderstand it and spend time in mechs they don't like to get master.

Edited by Keisuke Nagisa, 09 January 2013 - 11:29 AM.

[Johnny Reb]

Kristov Kerensky, on 09 January 2013 - 11:10 AM, said:

You must get Basic in 3 of the same chassis type to unlock the Elite, then you must get Elite in 3 of the same chassis type to unlock Master.

So...Catapult A1, C4 and K2 must all have Basic before you unlock Elite. You must then complete Elite on the Catapult A1, C4 and K2 before you can unlock Master.

This is true and not true. Yes you need 3 catapult to unlock basic but if you already had say 3 dragons that are maxed elite then any one of the catapults could then got straight to mastered with out the other 2 being elited first. Read the requirements:

Basic "Purchase all BASIC efficiencies for 3 variants of this chassis to unlock Elite"

Elite " Purchase all Elite efficiencies for 3 variants of this weight class to unlock Master"

So for basic its the chassis but for elite its weight class!

edit: ninja-ed, also have been doing this for over a month now.

Edited by Johnny Reb, 09 January 2013 - 11:33 AM.

[Skwisgaar Skwigelf]

Well then I stand corrected and plan to change up my leveling strategies.

Bye-bye terrible Atlas RS!

[Bashars]

Ya for me I ulocked basic on 3 cats. Then I unlocked elite on 2 then catph came out. I then unlocked basic on 3 of them to open elie. I only had to unlock one elite on catpht. One catph and two cats let me open master. I later bought flame and just had to lvl the 3 basics in dragons. Once done I only had to lvl elite on flame to get masters since I already had 3 elites unlocked in hvys.

[Loc Nar]

While OP is correct, what would be the point? The gains you get from unlocking elite efficiencies by far outweigh the tiny benefit of having one more marginally useful module...

[Skwisgaar Skwigelf]

Right but I've wasted a lot of time in variants I didn't like just to Master variants I did like. And eventually they will bring out some modules that really interest me so in my opinion it pays to go ahead and do the leveling on variants I enjoy using.

[Solomon Ward]

The additional Module slot is an investment into the future.

I see the times coming where the number of Module slots will be the deciding factor to chose a mech.

[Khobai]

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I see the times coming where the number of Module slots will be the deciding factor to chose a mech.

Based on what? Every single module we have to date is garbage.

[Panserbjorne]

Keisuke Nagisa, on 09 January 2013 - 11:29 AM, said:

OP is correct. It specifically says "Purchase all ELITE effeciencies for 3 variants of this weight class to unlock Master."



I think they should make this more clear as many people misunderstand it and spend time in mechs they don't like to get master.

Thanks for the clarification. Spending time leveling variants I have no interest in is exactly what I would like to avoid.

[Panserbjorne]

Solomon Ward, on 09 January 2013 - 11:46 AM, said:

The additional Module slot is an investment into the future.

I see the times coming where the number of Module slots will be the deciding factor to chose a mech.

I agree with this as well. Though they are currently quite weak, the devs have explicitly stated that they see equiping the proper modules as the player's "end game" goal. Therefore, I will wager that they will begin to matter a good deal more in the times to come.

[Khobai]

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ink they should make this more clear as many people misunderstand it and spend time in mechs they don't like to get master.

You still have to buy 3 variants though and get them to elite. You just dont have to get the elite skills on two of those three variants. So really youre not saving much time.

[Solomon Ward]

Khobai, on 09 January 2013 - 11:47 AM, said:

Based on what? Every single module we have to date is garbage.

Based on the statement that they consider Modules Endgame content and what i have seen so far of conceptual Module trees.

Sadly i got no Q&A answer on when they intend to implement more Modules.

Edited by Solomon Ward, 09 January 2013 - 12:02 PM.

[Ngamok]

Keisuke Nagisa, on 09 January 2013 - 11:29 AM, said:

OP is correct. It specifically says "Purchase all ELITE effeciencies for 3 variants of this weight class to unlock Master."



I think they should make this more clear as many people misunderstand it and spend time in mechs they don't like to get master.

Wow no kidding. I did 3 Catapults where I could have done 2 and done 2 Cataphracts or something. Oh well, at least when I do the Cataphracts, Master will be super easy then. Doing Hunchbacks now.