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[tucker147]

what do you guys think about this psu: http://www.newegg.ca...N82E16817121070

here's what i currently have: http://www.newegg.ca...N82E16817182044

i want to do some good overclocks but i don't think my current one is up to the task.

is the kingwin good for the price?

my system: cpu: amd a8-3870k
gpu: ECS gtx 560 se (pretty much a re branded 460)
ram: 4gb of gskill ddr3 1333
hdd: 500gb western digital blue
mobo: asrock a55m-hvs

[Odins Fist]

I wouldn't touch Kingwin with a ten foot pole... DO NOT buy Diablotek, Cougar, or OCZ PSUs either..
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If you want 500 to 600 watt range then look at this
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817256071
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If you plan to run (2) video cards in the future, and Overclock, then look at this.
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http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817139010

Edited by Odins Fist, 08 January 2013 - 04:56 PM.

[tucker147]

guess ill get the corsair. thx

[Odins Fist]

tucker147, on 08 January 2013 - 05:13 PM, said:

guess ill get the corsair. thx

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You're welcome.

[Catamount]

Keep in mind that since you're apparently in Canada (you linked to the Newegg CA site), it'll be this page you're looking at for the Corsair unit

http://www.newegg.ca...N82E16817139010

If you wanted to save a few bucks and get what is at least as good a PSU, you could get his instead

http://www.newegg.ca...N82E16817182264


Here are respective Rosewill Capstone and Corsair HX reviews

http://www.jonnyguru...Story2&reid=266

http://www.jonnyguru...Story2&reid=153

(Note that Johnny Guru does not review the HX 750, so I chose the 850; I doubt the 850 differs notably in internals/performance, and SERIOUSLY doubt that it's inferior, so it should perform very closely to the 750, and be at least as good as its cheaper cousin).

The Rosewill Capstone unit shows better load temperatures (it's like 10C cooler in JG's hot tests), better efficiency at all but the lowest loads, better voltage regulation (though they're both pretty damn good), although somewhat inferior ripple results (though, like the voltage regulation, both are damn good). They both have their -rather non-notheworthy- strengths and weaknesses (although now the Capstone unit is modular, so there goes that complaint), but unless you think you'll ever need more than 4 8-pin PCI connectors, I'd save the cash and get Newegg's brand.

Edited by Catamount, 08 January 2013 - 05:54 PM.

[Odins Fist]

I've run a Corsair 750, and it never got hot, it barely got warmed up running (2) Cards in SLI and an OC'd 6 core...
With what you are running currently, your system won't even come close to working it past efficiency or get it hot.
It will leave you enough room for future upgrades, from the looks of things, all you'll need and then some.
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Unless you buy a power hog Piledriver or Bulldozer and extreme OC it, then you might get close, a 62 AMP single rail will do fine.

Edited by Odins Fist, 08 January 2013 - 06:03 PM.

[Catamount]

Oh, to be sure, I doubt this user will ever even approach the need for a 750W PSU, of any kind, as that's really just gobs of power (but a limited amount of overkill is good, I guess, when you're OCing). It's just that there's an equal or better PSU to the Corsair unit for $22 less.

Edited by Catamount, 08 January 2013 - 06:33 PM.

[Odins Fist]

Catamount, on 08 January 2013 - 06:33 PM, said:

Oh, to be sure, I doubt this user will ever even approach the need for a 750W PSU,
It's just that there's an equal or better PSU to the Corsair unit for $22 less.

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Yes that is what I said already, in a fashion..
Equal or better is a matter of opinion I guess, that is unless components are made in North Korea.
Splitting tiny little hairs shouldn't matter.. Please elaborate on exactly where this so called "better" factors in, other than slightly, because I saw no clear advantage other than a few components, and not against Corsair.?
No, on second thought don't, you will only prolong the OP's indecision on a "GOOD" PSU.
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"TRYING" to get the last word in as always I see... Predictable, as the OP has stated what his purchase will most likely be before any additional posts, I see no reason to plant any confusion into the OP's mind at this point, since you already agree upon the Corsair PSU as not being bad, and no price point being mentioned.
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As always, you get what you pay for... Anecdotal: I still have a 585watt PSU running from 2007..
In a guest LAN rig that is... LOL
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Let us just leave it at that shall we..??

Edited by Odins Fist, 08 January 2013 - 11:18 PM.

[Catamount]

What's predictable is that I've long since failed to see what you're even arguing against anymore.

You gave a PSU; I gave a better option that does the same thing for less money. You never should have responded to my initial post in the first place, because that should have been the end of it, meaning the one insisting on getting the last word would be you (that being defined by the one who most responds when there's nothing left to say; in this case I have every reason to respond to a baseless accusation, whereas you had no reason to post, whatsoever). Why do you always have to turn this into personal commentary? I would have been perfectly content to restrict this to a discussion of hardware, rather than each other.

That is where I'll leave it.

Edited by Catamount, 09 January 2013 - 01:05 PM.

[Vulpesveritas]

Kingwin's higher end products are fine (Their lazer platinum series actually are better than the Seasonic Platinum units in some regards), however their low end products aren't too great.

As for the power supply I would recommend for your rig at ~$75, it would be this;
http://www.newegg.ca...N82E16817182131
It's more than enough power, using decent internals, and is modular.
Though this Corsair unit would do just as well with a bit more power for just a bit more after MIR;
http://www.newegg.ca...N82E16817139048

And I'll leave my recommendations at that.

[Odins Fist]

Catamount, on 09 January 2013 - 07:14 AM, said:

What's predictable is that I've long since failed to see what you're even arguing against anymore.

You gave a PSU; I gave a better option

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#1. I don't have to argue, I tell simply say it how it is... Like I said, you always "TRY" to get the last word, and I said it before, predictable. This isn't anyone's exclusive playground is it..??
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#2. Semantics are fun aren't they, so you reccomended a "BETTER" PSU huh..?? How much better is it really, it boils down to a matter of opinion on the Capstone... No use Spiltting hairs, and confusing the OP after he has made a decision that you your self endorsed, I doubt the the OP is so involved that something (so very minor) of a difference between the two would mean anything to him, unless he had more grand plans in the future for upgrades, but the 750 should be just about right, but I would go 850 if a Bulldozer x6 or Piledriver x8 gets thrown into the picture, I have just been told of an older 850 watt tripping it's over-current protection getting a Piledriver 8350 to 5.0GHZ on water. But it was almost expected due to it's specs.
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#3. This is a list of names of PSU manufacurers that should be avoided due to awful track records.
Kingwin, Diablotek, Cougar, OCZ, Coolmax, Enermax, Apevia, Compucase, Topower, Logisys, I could go on, but you get the picture.. And some of the previously known low end PSU companies are starting to make progress, but again it's a wait and see how well they do, and for how long the keep improving quality.
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The last I heard PC Power and Cooling was bought out by OCZ, and that doesn't inspire confidence, they use to be "IT" for PSUs, now I will have to reserve my opinion until I see where they have gone.
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The Kingwin Platinum edition 550 watt is 45.5 Amps on a single rail, that's not bad, but the TX650M 650W at 54 Amps, is where I would stop at for the money, Kingwin-P 550 at $119 versus Corsair TX650M at $104 ..
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817139031
I'm just "NOT" convinced with Kingwin, or their quality control.
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I hope that the OP has kept in his mind what kind of PSU he may need if he is planing to upgrade any further such as multiple video cards, and CPU overclocking, as I have seen a Piledriver x8 use upward past 308 watts when overclocked and put under moderate load. That is why I recommended the 750 watt... Not that he'll use it's "FULL" potential, but he did mention overclocking, and if he decides to upgrade Mobo, and CPU in the near future when Piledrivers go on a fire sale, then he's going to need it or even an 850 with the right Specs, depending on exactly what he will be running.

[Catamount]

Odins Fist, on 09 January 2013 - 02:35 PM, said:

Big long post to get the last word while launching personal attacks about having to get in the last word, while managing to say nothing in particular in several paragraphs of text

Yep, okay

Sorry you had to get worked up and start a fight over me making a better recommendation.

Edited by Catamount, 09 January 2013 - 03:23 PM.

[Odins Fist]

Catamount, on 09 January 2013 - 03:22 PM, said:

Yep, okay

Sorry you had to get worked up and start a fight over me making a better recommendation.

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Nope you didn't make a better recommendation, and you are trolling by trying to using the quote button in a lame way.
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That's not my quote, you can stop now...

[Catamount]

I see, so giving the OP a PSU that cost $20 less to do the exact same job isn't "better"? You're saying that the OP is just as well being out $20?

Silly me, here I just assumed that saving money by getting the same thing for less was automatically a good thing.

[Odins Fist]

If anyone is worried so much about $20.00 difference, then they shouldn't even really bother worrying about quality they get..
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You get what you pay for, unless you can get it on sale... I did in fact put up an alternative that was a but cheaper just to be nice.
You can stop anytime now, I think the OP mades his decision at least partly clear..

[Catamount]

I see, so if you don't have so much money to throw around that it's not worth it going to a different URL and getting something for $20 less, with everything else being basically equal, then you don't care about quality. Yep, your logic is just amazing.

For those of us who don't share such amazing logic, however, and prefer not paying more money for hardware just for the sake of paying more, I'm pretty sure my recommendation qualifies pretty handily as "better". I'll let you go off and prefer spending 15% more for the same hardware, and getting wounded every time I do better research and present better values.

Edited by Catamount, 09 January 2013 - 03:50 PM.