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#1 FrupertApricot

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:00 PM

Until you make it broadcast out of ECM and last until the body section it is attached to has taken X damage (still let a mech only have one NARC up at a time).

This is the only way. stop dragging it out with tiny fixes and incentives and just make it work.

#2 Tabrias07

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:02 PM

I have never seen anyone use NARC, ever.

I used it once and it was awful.

#3 superteds

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:03 PM

narc is trash and it's baffling how its been left trash for so long

#4 Yokaiko

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:03 PM

Correct 8 seconds and countered by ECM, 3 tons for the launcher another for ammo AND its a pain to hit with.


Yeah, never installing that thing again.

#5 grayson marik

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:03 PM

second this

#6 Karenai

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:07 PM

I see NARC from time to time. Targets with NARC on it are priority alpha plus one in the firing pattern for any LRM boat I know.
Not because it is so great, but because you have to give the scout pilot using it some satisfaction, because it is so cumbersome. It looks like ordering in an orbital strike in some games for the scout pilot. Every LRM able mech switches targets and lets LRM fly.

#7 J4ckInthebox

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:08 PM

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No One Is Going To Use The Narc


>> Implying someone ever used NARC before

#8 Bguk

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:09 PM

View PostJ4ckInthebox, on 08 January 2013 - 12:08 PM, said:

>> Implying someone ever used NARC before


People have tried it before, you know, to test out it's usefulness.

#9 FrupertApricot

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:09 PM

So im not just being a Dbag with this post? EVERYONE AGREES?

Seriously the only way to make narc viable is these measures

Double ammo per ton
Work thru/in/outside ECM
Last until the beacon is blown off by X damage to body part it is attached to regardless of the firers LOS, making drive By NARCing ( A TRUE TACTIC OF WIN) a viable team support strat? i would totally drive in with a NARC, hit a *******, then fly off wearing sunglasses. THAT sounds satisfying.

If they made these changes would yall consider using it?

Edited by FrupertApricot, 08 January 2013 - 12:10 PM.


#10 Nicholas Carlyle

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:11 PM

NARC Is always going to be worthless with ECM. Period.

The first thing that needs to happen is PGI needs to address ECM. You can't balance things while ECM is so freaking unbalanced. Because then if you do change ECM it messes things up again.

#11 Yokaiko

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:12 PM

View PostFrupertApricot, on 08 January 2013 - 12:09 PM, said:

So im not just being a Dbag with this post? EVERYONE AGREES?

Seriously the only way to make narc viable is these measures

Double ammo per ton
Work thru/in/outside ECM
Last until the beacon is blown off by X damage to body part it is attached to

If they made these changes would yall consider using it?



Without the double ammo if the rest went through.

Right now 4 tons for just over a minute of uptime IF you manage to land 8 shots.....AND there are already missile in the air. Get out. You need 8-9 seconds just for missiles to make it 900m what the hell are you supposed to do if the LRM boats have to lock as well. Its ridiculously underpowered for a LOT of weight.

#12 GODzillaGSPB

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:12 PM

PGI tries to be funny about it in the patchnotes, but I couldn't laugh, really.

No one uses NARC, nobody uses BAP, while ECM is...no not generally OP, but definitely for it's size and tonnage. If you don't have it in your team - screwed. If you pilot a non ECM Raven, Atlas or Cicada - a loser.

The game is currently balanced around a single, 3ton piece of equipment. How stupid is that?

#13 StraferX

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:12 PM

I will not know If I will use it until after the patch and test to see any changes and how effective it will be. Anything is worth a test run or 3 after a patch.

#14 Livewyr

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:12 PM

View PostJ4ckInthebox, on 08 January 2013 - 12:08 PM, said:


>> Implying someone ever used NARC before


I used it... in MW4 Pr1

#15 Mack1

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:13 PM

Hmm Narc, let me think, narc....err...nope never seen one of them before.

#16 Nicholas Carlyle

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:14 PM

I just don't understand why they think attaching xp or c-bills to something will make more people use it. The problem right now is the MC things are stupidly priced, mech exp is worthless once you get all of your elite skills and c-bills only matter if you feel a need to buy every mech.

Edited by Nicholas Carlyle, 08 January 2013 - 12:14 PM.


#17 MGoo

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:17 PM

I have been using the narc all day prior to the update and have had great success with it,
granted if your team is all cannons and lazors or they are mostly ecm shielded then aye its pretty useless, but i have to agree with a previous comment.......
the matches with lrm teamates.....jesus i feel a little sorry for the poor mechs i tag and narc, they get a sh*tstorm of missiles on them and they have no idea how to get away from it (hint...they cant :))
nice that the new update will add me a little bonus for using it, i find it quite fun, tag and narc pretty much tell your whole team....KILL THIS GUY...and they invariably do.

#18 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:18 PM

i know i never did... TAG either. Artemis sometimes.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:20 PM

I've tried using it but it is way to cumbersome even just to get a hit let alone have a missle boat target it.

From the missle boat side it would be nice if it did work because I find 90% of my shots never make it to the target because the enemey doesn't stay spotted long enough.

#20 Dagger6T6

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:22 PM

i saw it used one time and this was probably during closed beta...

until it has a lasting effect, like duration of the match or location takes heavy damage, then i don't see anyone even bothering to use it, no matter how much award you add to its use





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