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Night And Thermal Vision : Wasted Features.


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#1 William Warriors

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 05:17 PM

I have been playing the maps with poor visibilities, like the night city mission and Blizzard.

The night and thermal vision of this game is useless, it is like the seeing with cataract, what is the point of having them at the first place?

This is the 31st century, surely the technology had made some stride since then?

Even the Second Gen night vision scopes we have now are much better than what is in the game.

UTTERLY USELESS.

#2 rgreat

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 05:21 PM

Thermal suck?

Man, what are you smoking?
But night vision is lacking, right.

#3 Krazy Kat

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 05:23 PM

If they made them better, then everyone would use them all the time. We would never get to see the true beauty of the maps.

#4 Orgasmo

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 05:24 PM

Night vision's contrast in this game should be toned down. Thermal vision is fine as it is, although smoke should not generate heat signature.

#5 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 05:25 PM

Krazy unless I'm on Caustic I do use Heat vision all the time. Sniper's/scout's best friend I tell you.

#6 Livewyr

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 05:36 PM

they need to be made into modules to be bought... why bother with weather effects or time of day when the modes are so easily changed..for effective sight.

#7 superteds

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 05:37 PM

thermals awesome, best scouting tool there is. nv is ok... far too much glare on buildings and the like though.

#8 rgreat

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 05:38 PM

View PostLivewyr, on 12 January 2013 - 05:36 PM, said:

they need to be made into modules to be bought... why bother with weather effects or time of day when the modes are so easily changed..for effective sight.

I'd make Thermal Vision as a module, while Night Vision would be build in.
Add there another module for Magnetometric Vision anounced long ago.

Edited by rgreat, 12 January 2013 - 05:40 PM.


#9 verybad

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 05:40 PM

View PostWilliam Conrad, on 12 January 2013 - 05:17 PM, said:

I have been playing the maps with poor visibilities, like the night city mission and Blizzard.

The night and thermal vision of this game is useless, it is like the seeing with cataract, what is the point of having them at the first place?

This is the 31st century, surely the technology had made some stride since then?

Even the Second Gen night vision scopes we have now are much better than what is in the game.

UTTERLY USELESS.

By just this single post, it's easy to tell that you're no good in the game. Night vision? Well ok, that's not very useful, but thremal? Are you kidding me? That's about the most idiotic OP I've seen in a while here, and that's sayiong something.

#10 SpammyV

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 05:55 PM

I think that there needs to be less glaringly bright white surfaces in night vision, but I think thermal is fine. One of the good things about ECM at least is that it made thermal vision better by allowing you to see distant movement under an ECM umbrella, and it makes spotting targets easier of Frozen City Day. I don't use thermal that often, but that's just because once I've spotted a target I need to turn it off otherwise smoke will make my framerate go to kittens.

One thing I will say is that the one place that night vision shines, at least for me, is avoiding stuff in River City Night and being in a brawl in River City Night. I can't target components on the big blob that is a thermal target, but night vision makes it (almost) crystal clear.

Also never bring up modern technology in comparison to Battletech/Mechwarrior technology, one of the Battletech rulebooks flat-out stated that all ranges were assigned for balance/fun purposes, not realism. So MWO can be tuned for fun as well. Which it is, so I'm happy. =)

#11 Surtr

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 07:04 PM

Both are fine. Also remember Btech came about in the 80's, so everything is 80's+1000 years. Why else do we have 1 ton computers (looking at you c3)

#12 Kaspirikay

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 07:07 PM

Night vision sucks. Thermal is awesome.

#13 Vaneshi SnowCrash

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 07:16 PM

View PostSpammyV, on 12 January 2013 - 05:55 PM, said:

lso never bring up modern technology in comparison to Battletech/Mechwarrior technology,


But occasionally it's fun to do so. Take the stock Mech sensor package, the one installed by default on to any production Mech. Sure it has thermo and low light gear as well as regular visual spectrum stuff as you'd expect. It can also see, by default, magnetic anomalies and has a full seismograph. It doesn't give the pilot these as separate view modes, it dumps it merges it all together and dumps it to a single screen in the cockpit you use to look out at the world.

As I say it's occasionally fun to bring the real world in to these things if only for the giggle. Simple electronic jamming (i.e. ECM) won't stop a Mech from 'seeing' you from miles away.

#14 Loc Nar

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 07:20 PM

If you do not use 'h' heatvision regardless of conditions or map (aside from Caustic), they will see you first and you will die. The end.

#15 Broceratops

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 07:21 PM

thermal is OP

#16 Kaspirikay

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 07:23 PM

View PostBroceratops, on 12 January 2013 - 07:21 PM, said:

thermal is OP


This.


Thermal should have a max view distance.

#17 Five oh Five Squat

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 07:23 PM

I actually find myself playing exclusively with thermal anymore, especially with all the ECM running around.

#18 Icebound

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 07:31 PM

In b4 thermal vision is nerfed because it's OP compared to night vision.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 07:41 PM

View PostWilliam Conrad, on 12 January 2013 - 05:17 PM, said:

The night and thermal vision of this game is useless...


I use my H key to counter ecm --- in about 80% of matches that I play.

#20 JohnnyC

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 07:57 PM

Thermal works alright except that it's too blurry. After a little while it starts to bug my eyes. I prefer no need for thermal or night vision, but night vision is useless and thermal is the only way to see very well on some maps.





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