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[Osirus]

I had a load of AC ammo on a torso and had an ammo explosion even though I had CASE installed to that location?

Is CASE a guarunteed prevention from ammo esplosions?

[Gradrock]

Nope just less dmg I thought

[Vassago Rain]

It doesn't prevent ammo explosion, but keeps the explosion in the location CASE is mounted in.

So if you have 3 tons of ammo in your side, and it gets shot up, instead of your whole mech exploding, you'll lose your side torso.

[Spiketail Drake]

CASE does NOT prevent ammo/gun explosions. It only contains them to the RT/LT sections. But that means with an XL engine, you still die.

[Chavette]

They shot the missile arm of my raven, where I had my ammo and I only lost the arm. Whats up with that?

[Padic]

As I understand it, damage done by an ammo explosion is a function of how much ammo is remaining. If your low on ammo, an ammo explosion might not have enough 'oompf' left to destroy multiple sections.

[Vassago Rain]

Chavette, on 08 February 2013 - 03:56 PM, said:

They shot the missile arm of my raven, where I had my ammo and I only lost the arm. Whats up with that?

They didn't hit the ammo. Simply losing your arm won't detonate the ammo. It's the same with getting hit in the side.
Or you had so little ammo left, the arm had enough lifepoints to take the explosion without it spreading into your side.

[Chavette]

Hmph... looks like with my luck, I don't even need case

[Vassago Rain]

Chavette, on 08 February 2013 - 04:04 PM, said:

Hmph... looks like with my luck, I don't even need case

I ALWAYS take it if I'm gonna carry lots of explosive ammo, or have a gauss rifle.

Gauss ammo doesn't explode (the rifle does), so can be put everywhere, even as padding. Say you want your SRMs to have a lower risk of getting taken out, you can put in gauss ammo with them, to absorb hits.

[Tarman]

I need to start fitting more of it, especially on my Catas. I've been noticing in my death reports a disturbing number of ammostack cookoffs, more than I'd care for. I don't mind being beaten but helping myself to lose is just stupid.

[Vassago Rain]

Tarman, on 08 February 2013 - 04:19 PM, said:

I need to start fitting more of it, especially on my Catas. I've been noticing in my death reports a disturbing number of ammostack cookoffs, more than I'd care for. I don't mind being beaten but helping myself to lose is just stupid.

Remember, if you have an XL engine, CASE is pointless. They blow your side, you die. They detonate ammo, you'll die because your side blew out.

[Tarman]

Vassago Rain, on 08 February 2013 - 04:22 PM, said:

Remember, if you have an XL engine, CASE is pointless. They blow your side, you die. They detonate ammo, you'll die because your side blew out.

XL engines are the devil's work! I like the extra tonnage you get from them but generally I prefer a zombie, especially in a hi-ammo build. I always feel like I'm made of glass running one of those things.

Edited by Tarman, 08 February 2013 - 04:26 PM.

[Vassago Rain]

Tarman, on 08 February 2013 - 04:26 PM, said:

XL engines are the devil's work! I like the extra tonnage you get from them but generally I prefer a zombie, especially in a hi-ammo build. I always feel like I'm made of glass running one of those things.

I like XLs on mechs that become useless if you take out a side, like most of the hunchbacks.

[MechWarrior849305]

I think, splash damage from ammo explosion to nearby mechs should be applied. And by the time component health system will be tuned - splash of reactor explosion should be present too So, sometimes wearing CASE would be bad idea

[HurlockHolmes]

DuoAngel, on 08 February 2013 - 04:31 PM, said:

I think, splash damage from ammo explosion to nearby mechs should be applied. And by the time component health system will be tuned - splash of reactor explosion should be present too So, sometimes wearing CASE would be bad idea

I thought the devs were actually against reactor splash damage?

[Hellboy561]

Basically an ammo explosion will travel from one area to another. RL/A -> RT -> CT. Installing a case in the side torsos. will stop the explosion at this point. In the lore the case system is designed to angle the explosion off to the side away from the CT.

Eventually Case2 is developed which can be mounted in arms which would prevent explosions from your arms destroying your side torso.

EDIT: Also each type of ammo has differnent damage ratings when explosions occur. If your only ammo is for your AMS i wouldn't worry as the damage is negligable. Obviously if your packing AC/20s or Gauss Case is more of a factor.

Edited by Hellboy561, 08 February 2013 - 05:05 PM.

[SilentWolff]

Spiketail Drake, on 08 February 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

CASE does NOT prevent ammo/gun explosions. It only contains them to the RT/LT sections. But that means with an XL engine, you still die.

This.

[Deamhan]

How I would prefer CASE to work is....

CASE can only be applied to one of the three torsos, just as it does now.
If you put ammo in one of your torso w/ CASE, and the ammo explodes, you straight up lose your rear torso armor and any excess damage is straight up negated. If you have no rear armor, the damage is straight up negated.

The reason behind this is that the CASE drops the rear armor in that section and vents the explosion out the rear to protect the internals.

This would make it more worth taking. It would help protect xl's in the case of using them, and it would make them useful in the CT (cause right now it can be equipped to the CT but it would be pointless).