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collosus, on 15 January 2013 - 02:04 AM, said:
problem here is not ravens, not commandos, not ecm. It's the netcode. An atlas with ECM appears and gets roflstomped with direct balistic/energy weapons and srms (been there, done that, and been on both sides of the barrel). However, a 3L raven appears, with streaks and lasers, and even lagshooting (i play with 250 latency so i'm used to it) it's almost impossible to kill the light. Not to mention the fact that sometimes you even hit him but because of the bug of a mech/weapon (such as the stalker with multiple ppcs or the awseome) it dosen't register. If the netcode worked as intended, and the mech would actually be damaged and blown to pieces in less than 10 seconds (like it happened before in CB, where you actually had to measure where to get with a light, otherwise you would either get knocked down or legged by a barrage of AC/gauss/laser.
^ THIS, thank you!
Thread like this are so annoying and stupid. Billion of threads complaining about ECM... why don t you look a bit away of your nose??
First of all, in case you did not understood yet, this game is "inspired" to TT, it cannot be a full translation of TT rules toa real time PC game.
With that said however, the ECM concept is pretty much coming from the TT rules:
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[color=#000000]The [/color]Guardian ECM Suite[color=#000000] was introduced in [/color]2597[color=#000000] by the [/color]Terran Hegemony[1][color=#000000]. Designed to interfere with guided weaponry, targeting computers, and communication systems, the Guardian is typically used to shield allied units from such equipment by emitting a broad-band signal meant to confuse radar, infrared, ultraviolet, magscan and sonar sensors.[/color][2][color=#000000] Affected systems include [/color]Artemis IV[color=#000000], [/color]C3[color=#000000] and [/color]C3i Computer[color=#000000] networks, and [/color]Narc Missile Beacons[color=#000000]. A Guardian can jam a [/color]Beagle Active Probe[color=#000000] (or its Clan [/color]equivalent[color=#000000]), but the probe-equipped unit will be aware of the jamming. The [/color]Capellan Confederation[color=#000000]expanded the utility of the Guardian even more with the introduction of [/color]Stealth Armor[color=#000000].[/color][3][color=#000000]
The greatest drawback to the Guardian is its limited range, which extends out to only 180 meters. Sensors can sometimes override this jamming, though by that point the enemy unit is already within visual range and can track the opposition with their own eyes.[2][/color]
[color=#000000]The Clans used the Guardian as the basis for their own [/color]ECM Suite[color=#000000], which is lighter and more compact than the Inner Sphere model but functions identically. The [/color]Draconis Combine[color=#000000] used the Guardian as the basis for their [/color]experimental[color=#000000][/color]Angel ECM Suite[color=#000000].[/color][4]
The greatest drawback to the Guardian is its limited range, which extends out to only 180 meters. Sensors can sometimes override this jamming, though by that point the enemy unit is already within visual range and can track the opposition with their own eyes.[2][/color]
[color=#000000]The Clans used the Guardian as the basis for their own [/color]ECM Suite[color=#000000], which is lighter and more compact than the Inner Sphere model but functions identically. The [/color]Draconis Combine[color=#000000] used the Guardian as the basis for their [/color]experimental[color=#000000][/color]Angel ECM Suite[color=#000000].[/color][4]
So, this is the ECM and how is supposed to work.
Being Inspired from TT, I wonder.. Would it be possible a tweak having ECM extending time to lock instead negating time to lock ? -- Rules says "interfere", doesn t say negate.
With that said Iis NOT ECM the culprit of this mess, you myopic people.
Problem is when you have BAD Netcode and Lagshield! When you have only ONE Weapon able to hit those lil MoFos running all over the place: SSRMs
If you have to nuke a Runner with SSRMs but that freaking runner has ECM, you ll never kill it.
If that runner has ECM and also has Streaks the unbalance is huge. Do you see that?
ECM per se is working as supposed. Is the mixing of ECM with bugged items and Mech with ECM/Streaks that make that Mix bad.
Do you understand that because the engine is bugged with lagshield, no fast mech at this moment should have ECM?
Make a petition to remove ECM from Lights if you want really complain about something. ECM to be back on lights when Netcode and Lagshiled or AT LEAST Collisions will be back.
There are no problems to Nuke an AS ECM. Problem is there when you have the Ravens - Don t you freaking see it?
If the ECM Raven did not have Streaks and was not Lagshield protected and was vulnerable to Collisions, ECM would not be an issue. That Raven would be dead before even know he found an enemy.
You ppl complaining about ECM are so Pathetic.
