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[Tezz LaCoil]

I, personally, hated the Mongoose in Mechwarrior 2. I hated fighting it, and I hated how fast it was. Especially in the ice-level. I forget what planet, but I remember it being one of the only missions with a fully destructable firebase in it, which I always thought was cool as all heck.

In mechwarrior 3, I never had any issues with any 'Mechs.

In Mechwarrior 4, Mercenaries especially, I despised fighting Ravens, Catapults, and Cougars, and DREADED fighting Vultures. An Atlas I knew how to fight, sure. But when it came down to Cougars (and Pumas. Dear lord.), I was near at a loss. They and their buddies could chew through a decent Battlemech with little effort if not dispatched quickly. Especially if a support Mech came into play.

Ravens were just annoying. Hard to lock on to most of the time due to standard ECM's, and harder to strike with lasers due to their speed, it was always a bit more drawn out than I would have liked when fighting a Raven.

Catapults and Vultures. I love to pilot them because they are fun, but I find facing them a tad daunting. They would let loose flight after flight of missiles, and unless you were in a light or medium Mech it was hard to take them down without catching a few to the jaw once or twice. Vultures were especially dangerous in Mechwarrior 4 because of the pulse lasers that Catapults did not have.

That's my spill on the mechs I despised fighting.

[RhinoGrizzly]

I got several I disliked over the years, but most are actually pre-Clan. In no particular order, these are the 'Mechs I won't drive and will kill on sight because Hanse Davion told me to:

Anything starting with 'Ost'... that whole series of 'Mechs was both ill-designed and ugly. I can deal with one or the other [witness the Urby], but both is a death sentance.
Goliath... Look there, Obi-Wan! An AT-AT with turrets!
Firestarter... The Ronson Lighter of the Inner Sphere: One strike and it lights right up!
Scorpion... See the Goliath above
And the LAM's... neither fish nor fowl nor good red meat [Putting a beating on LAM factories is one of the few things I agree with the Snakes on...]

[LightSeibaa]

LAMs. Take your pick. They're all horrible.

And really...nobody hating on the Panther? One PPC in a light mech is great armament, but it could take maybe 3, four medium hits before going down? Hated that thing.

Edited by LightSeibaa, 25 May 2012 - 10:05 PM.

[DragonzBane]

Surprised that no body mentioned the locust ??

[whiteknight]

Xaks, on 25 May 2012 - 10:16 AM, said:

The Goliath, Charger, and ...I'm sorry, but I'm gonna be honest here...the Jenner.

A walking tank, a 5/8 assault with small lasers, and that doorstop-looking POS?

The Jenner is kind of an unfortunate case because of how long it took to get meaningful upgrades.

The Charger -1A1 is crap, but the -1A5 and -SA5 are insanely good

1dragonsbane23, on 25 May 2012 - 10:14 PM, said:

Surprised that no body mentioned the locust ??

Locust pilots are the weirdest... the mech is decent enough though

[Fujin]

The Strider. Hated it since i first saw it in MW3

[Rayne Usho Luzon]

I personally liked piloting a panther. could never really hate it for the role it played.

On the other hand, I didn't liked facing a Timber Wolf. it was easy to hit but the armor was pretty thick.

[Hardac]

Annihilator. It looks like a mecha godzilla design gone horribly horribly wrong.





Oh and all the protomechs. So cartoony, so impractical, so vomit inducing.

[whiteknight]

Hardac, on 25 May 2012 - 10:45 PM, said:

Annihilator. It looks like a mecha godzilla design gone horribly horribly wrong.





Oh and all the protomechs. So cartoony, so impractical, so vomit inducing.

I miss Doug Chaffee... and the fluff for Protos makes some sense for their look. They are pretty evil in swamps, cities or other tricky terrain

[Vassago Legion]

Jager Wolf, on 25 May 2012 - 09:26 AM, said:

Ostsol, Ostroc, Ostscout and the Urbanmech. So ugly I wouldn't let my dog **** 'em.

Hah, Urbanmech is R2-D2 with longer legs.

Edited by Vassago Legion, 25 May 2012 - 10:54 PM.

[lwCoyote]

cinder, on 25 May 2012 - 09:12 AM, said:

WHT-1S Whitworth. Too slow to bring its short-range weapons load to bear against others in its class, to lightly armored to survive the slow lumber into short range against anything heavier. We used to refer to it as (something else that rhymes with 'whit')-worth, because that's what it was worth.

The standard Whitworth mounts twin LRM-10s.. only the variant swaps those out. The STandard version is a suprrisingly effective fire-support mech, at least in tabletop play.

[Hayden]

Most of the 'mechs I dislike come from the later TROs. The best part about 3025 and 3050 TRO 'mechs is that they all look distinct without ruining my suspension of disbelief. Later TROs, though... I hated the 3060 TRO, as well as the Prototypes TRO. 3085 was actually a step in the right direction, in some ways. Mechs like the Orochi and the Bruin are good steps forward, yes there are some similarities between the two but I like the art direction on these MUCH better than, say, the Parash (which looks like a giant protomech, ugh), or the redesigned PNT-13K Panther (WHY!?!?!?????).

And this is why I pretty much "live" in 3025. When life was simple and everything was reasonable and humanity was on the downswing.

[BenEEeees VAT GROWN BACON]

While I love the awesome coolness of the Timber Wolf, I'd always wondered how it could have so much armour.

The Timber Wolf has to be the frailest looking mech out there with it's conical cockpits and exposed actuators but it has more armour than a lot of heavy sturdy-box type mechs that by design alone should be more survivable.

Doesn't make sense to me :/

[whiteknight]

BenEEeees VAT GROWN BACON, on 25 May 2012 - 10:55 PM, said:

While I love the awesome coolness of the Timber Wolf, I'd always wondered how it could have so much armour.

The Timber Wolf has to be the frailest looking mech out there with it's conical cockpits and exposed actuators but it has more armour than a lot of heavy sturdy-box type mechs that by design alone should be more survivable.

Doesn't make sense to me :/

Blame Clan Ferro Fibrous?

Seriously though, I'd rather relatively agile mechs look under armored than over... the Crimson Langur looks much too chunky to move as fast as its supposed to.

[lwCoyote]

I am gonna base my hate on playability in tabletop rather than looks (With one or two exceptions..)

Lessee...

3025 era
Flea - A very badly drawn version of an AT-ST. This is one of the mechs I hate b ased on looks, heh
Urbanmech -> Way too slow for a light... er... ANY weight class of mech.
Cicada -> the 3025 version is just an awful, and extremely expensive, locust. The 3050 upgrade? Who thought it would be a good idea to mount a crappy ultra-5AC with ammo on a mech with 4 tons of armor?
Phoenix HAwk -> Iconic mech, but with ridiculous overheating problems
Hoplite -> very, very poor design and supposedly used by the elite Wolf Dragoons? Lets do some math here.. AC/10 (3 heat), LRM 10 (3 heat), Running (2 heat)... thats 8 heat. So why does it mount 16 heatsinks? Theres redundancy, and then theres this pile.
Shadowhawk -> well really any mech that mounts an AC/5 or AC/5. The sheer inefficiency of those weapons makes me weep
Jagermech/Rifleman -> see Shadowhawk.
Marauder -> too many heat problems for one of the so called "Deadlies theavy mechs". Plus it has an AC/5
ON-1V Orion -> takes a great design and makes it worse... removing 2 tons of armor for another SRM4 on a mech that borders on bad for heat problems >.>
Goliath -> in ability to torso-twist makes them easy to outflank

3055 era
Hammer -> Slow poorly armed light fire support mech. Why is it suppsedly compatible with the Anvil? Who came up wit that idea??
Snake -> In what universe is an LB10-X and 3 streak-2s a good anti-elemental mech?
Wraith -> My hate for the Wrath stems from having to fight them. I love h aving them
bandersnatch -> One of the mechs I hate for its looks. Also, far too much ammunition makes it a walking disaster. I know this from experiance.

3060 era
Watchman -> I think this is 3060 era. Anyways, low tech mech in a high tech erra. All fine and good until you pull them from factories in a Mekwars campaign >.> Ditto the lineholder
Hollander -> ok a third one I hate from its looks. But also thin armor and too slow for a light mech = big target. Ditto the hollander 2
black watch -> again, i think this is 3060, cant remember. Way undergunned for its size. MRM40??? *laugh*

Alright, I'll end my list here, mostly cause I dont feel like pulling out my TROs for further analysis.

[whiteknight]

lwCoyote, on 25 May 2012 - 11:17 PM, said:

Hoplite -> very, very poor design and supposedly used by the elite Wolf Dragoons? Lets do some math here.. AC/10 (3 heat), LRM 10 (3 heat), Running (2 heat)... thats 8 heat. So why does it mount 16 heatsinks? Theres redundancy, and then theres this pile.
.

In fairness that's the 4C version, which is kind of an export version, a monkeyed down model for the merc masses. The Dragoons probably use more of the 4B, with a PPC and LRM15 with 2 tons of ammo. Better better firepower, better use of the 16 sinks.

[Corpral ellenbogen]

Never did care for the way an owens looked

[bert bargo]

I dont care what chassis it is: I HATE boats. Laser boats, missile boats, AC boats...

Edited by bert bargo, 26 May 2012 - 10:09 AM.

[Tezz LaCoil]

Corpral ellenbogen, on 25 May 2012 - 11:42 PM, said:

Never did care for the way an owens looked

It seemed like an effective fighter though. Its strange profile made it harder to hit than hell itself. Plus it was fast. Really. Really. Fast.

[Stormeris]

LordDeathStrike, on 25 May 2012 - 09:50 PM, said:

i hate quad mechs, theyre all uselessly underarmed for their weights, cant turn for spit, and once you hit one of the legs off they can barely move.

you pansy! stop spouting such nonsense, according to lore a skilled tarantula pilot can move with 3 legs blown off, and losing one leg only removes their capabilty to move sideways and slightly decrease speed
Now, i hate the Mad Cat, LET THE FLAME WARS BEGIN


just kidding, Mad Cat is OK at best, -ost- mechs are downright ugly

Edited by Stormeris, 26 May 2012 - 10:38 AM.