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[Jumpinjack]

as for streak they can lock onto ECk outside the 180 bubble, heavy/assult mechs neeed to for the lag lead on lights and use standard lasers and straif the legs. I have no problems with light mechs running an atlas

[Kylere]

I am not that great at this game, but the constant Raven this and ECM that is silly. I kill lights just like other mechs, they are more annoying and I have to give them consideration in my weapons mix.

Do I have an ECM Atlas with 3 streaks? Yeppers, because it eats lights, would I rather have LRMS? Sure, but that is adjusting to the combat.

Do I use tag on my CPLT-C1? On Constantly? Yeppers, because it lets me spot, target and hit ECM protected mechs from range. Do I hate lights that are smart enough to hunt Cats? Sure, which is why I play it smart, move between sets of volleys, and engage the lights who come back effectively while pulling them to the center mass of my team.

Is it a hassle to hunt ravens in a Commando (2D or otherwise?) Yeah, it sucks, but it can be done. Try to play the game as it is without expecting change.

[Horned Bull]

Elkarlo, on 16 January 2013 - 06:14 AM, said:

Korm i never piloted a Streakcat, or mostly not when piloting an A1 with 2LRM15 and 4SSRM counts as Streakcat.

I just drove it till... Basic reached then i sold it... 4 Days before ECM hit the Shelfes. I like Laserwork more.

And as i said, the Streakcat is Weak compared to a real brawler... only advantage was Darkscreen and Screenshake... and that you didn't have to be 100% on the target.

Streakcat's advantages:

1. jumpjets (old, no longer valid)
2. best torso twist in the game
3. ability to kill mediums/light in 2-3 salvos
4. no need to aim, just push one button to win

it was insanely overpowered build, and now thanks to ECM it's much more balanced

[Sheraf]

They don't kill medium in 2 or 3 salvo. I fought one in my Hunchback 4sp. It can hit all it wants while I cut the leg . Streaks no longer homing on to center torso only.

Edited by Sheraf, 16 January 2013 - 06:40 AM.

[Ghogiel]

I have no sympathy for streakcats.

[Elkarlo]

Look it this way: Streak Cats with Lockability on a ECM Raven will kill him...

You can kill a Streakcat easily at 300 Meters with Lasers, AC and LRM fire...

[BlackMagicOperator]

Korm, on 16 January 2013 - 06:37 AM, said:

3. ability to kill mediums/light in 2-3 salvos

Learn2build.

Any mech that couldn't take 5+ hits from a streakcat was badly built or badly piloted.

[FromHell2k]

Thats kinda of natural selection. Some stupid whiners cried so hard.. Dev's had no other chance than killing the SSRM-Cat. Now you've got 66-Cats = Natural Selection > Whiners still get obliterated..
Same with the Gaussapult > Whiners cried so damn hard > Now there are AC/20-Cats > Natural Selection = Whiners getting obliterated even more.

Thats how it works.

Next thing that will be killed might be the Raven-3L+ECM+SSRM (hopefully all SSRM+ECM-Variants), be sure there will be something more horrible to replace it.. Whiners ask for, whiners get what they want

@OP:
This post actualy doesn't adress you, but someone with an IQ high enough to know that ice smelts on caustic will understand this( so, 5% of the users around here).

[Sheraf]

If you a Medium, don't really expect to go 1 vs 1 with a Heavy. It is not impossible, but why don't you just hug your Assault mech and support it?

[w0rm]

Korm, on 16 January 2013 - 06:11 AM, said:

poor streakcat pilots, they can't push one button to win anymore...

Strange my SRMCat now oneshots Atlas' from behind.

[vilezoidberg]

I don't know if my Jenner D counts as a streak cat (2 streaks), but I've never gotten anywhere near to killing another mech with only a few volleys, besides maybe a Spider. It doesn't do focus fire on limbs too well. Which is perfect fine by me, since I usually just scout/tag, shoot my load a couple of times, then **** before I get smooshed.

[Horned Bull]

BlackMagicOperator, on 16 January 2013 - 06:53 AM, said:

Learn2build.

Any mech that couldn't take 5+ hits from a streakcat was badly built or badly piloted.

A jenner that had bad luck to run into a streakcat. Sure he has a chance (with a bit of luck) to survive with red structure components. Streakcats before ECM were completely broken. I hope you enjoy ravens on your butt.

Also have fun with running with anything other than light from a streakcat, especially as cat chassis is perfect (joke-sized side torsos) to mount huge XL engine.

Also if a streakcat pilot is unable to kill anything lighter than heavy mech with 5 salovs then even with autoaim its pilot is terribad.

Edited by Korm, 16 January 2013 - 07:19 AM.

[Sheraf]

Korm, on 16 January 2013 - 07:17 AM, said:

A jenner that had bad luck to run into a streakcat. Sure he has a chance (with a bit of luck) to survive with red structure components. Streakcats before ECM were completely broken. I hope you enjoy ravens on your butt.

Also have fun with running with anything other than light from a streakcat, especially as cat chassis is perfect (joke-sized side torsos) to mount huge XL engine.

I don't run from Streakcat in my Catapult C1. I fight them, and sometimes I win , but that is only if I was careless enough to run into one. When the streakcat decide to run away from me, I shoot my LRM, and bam it dies.

Edited by Sheraf, 16 January 2013 - 07:20 AM.

[Horned Bull]

Sheraf, on 16 January 2013 - 07:19 AM, said:

I don't run from Streakcat in my Catapult C1. I fight them, and sometimes I win , but that is only if I was careless enough to run into one. When the streakcat decide to run away from me, I shoot my LRM, and bam it dies.

Now you made me wonder, why in hell a perfect brawler build like a streakcat would run away from a lrm boat.

[Sheraf]

Korm, on 16 January 2013 - 07:25 AM, said:

Now you made me wonder, why in hell a perfect brawler build like a streakcat would run away from a lrm boat.

LRM boat with 2 large laser and 2 medium laser, at 72 kph? Maybe

[Horned Bull]

Sheraf, on 16 January 2013 - 07:33 AM, said:

LRM boat with 2 large laser and 2 medium laser, at 72 kph? Maybe

With circestrafing (and better heat efficiency) a streakcat should be able to dish out (technically speaking) bigger damage output on the close range. If you are able to finish them off then good for you I guess.

[Sheraf]

Their damage before the nerf to streaks, I won't make it, but streaks they spread out to arms and legs now, so it is possible to fight them at close range. Only as last resort though, as I don't really want to run into them. Given choice, I would still fight them instead of the Raven 3L

Edited by Sheraf, 16 January 2013 - 07:39 AM.

[Jacmac]

Elkarlo, on 16 January 2013 - 04:59 AM, said:

• My LRM's can't fire at the charging Atlas D-DC because i have an ECM Raven in my Back

A charging D-DC has ECM, so unless he is countered, you aren't going to be firing LRMs at him anyway (except in dumb-fire mode).

[Jacmac]

Korm, on 16 January 2013 - 06:37 AM, said:

it was insanely overpowered build, and now thanks to ECM it's much more balanced

I have no love for the streakcat, but it was only over-powered because of the claustrophobic sized maps and the mechanics of the missiles that allows them to home in with too much agility.

[Sheraf]

Jacmac, on 16 January 2013 - 07:53 AM, said:

I have no love for the streakcat, but it was only over-powered because of the claustrophobic sized maps and the mechanics of the missiles that allows them to home in with too much agility.

I hope the scout actually do their job of spotting enemies, so the rest of the team don't just wander into one.